many of the new Laptops added the tenkey field to the keyboard.
here a comparison pic:


now i can't sit in the middle of the screen and type anything.
and is this touchpad for lefty

what's going on with these idiots?
Ergo Fail!

That's just awful....

2012: using the built in keyboard...fail xD

In all seriousness, why dont you carry one of your small boards along with the laptop? The deck would work perfectly.

About the laptops...I agree! My new dell has this. It is annoyng, so I use my g80-1800.

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my 6 year old fujitsu-siemens has this already.

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I see people often set up their desktops in a similar way - with the keyboard as a unit in line with the monitor, thus placing the keys they'll use most over to the left, and the mouse way off to the side. Seems to be about visual neatness rather than physical practicality or comfort. Or worse, the monitor's off to one side and they twist all the time. Slim screens have put paid to much of that, happily.

I am ashamed to admit that I used to be one of those people who wants a keypad on the laptop keyboard layout.
Ashamed

all the best to you and your familiy. i hope the scientists will find a elixir for that soon.

Could be worse. I've got a sony vaio and it has a bit of a gap between the 'main' keyboard and the numpad.

Muppet designers - learn some ergonomics for the love of food! Get shot of the numpad and place the touchpad there!

My iPad 3 has a split keyboard that is quite nice.

ripster wrote:My iPad 3 has a split keyboard that is quite nice.

Please... stop, you're making me laugh. The words "iPad" and "ergonomics" are polar opposites.

We have a laptop laid out this way; an Asus, and it's SO squashed!

ripster wrote:My iPad 3 has a split keyboard that is quite nice.

There are already some RSI syndroms with tablets ie iPad. So i don't think ergonomics is relevant in Cupertino too

Please stay on topic.

I now have an iPad tips & tricks post in my subforum.

Wow, NICE ampersand here: &
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Takes me back to the latin roots.

Etc.

Etc.

What font is this?

ABCDEFGHIJKL
MNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

Trebuchet MS.


Dudes.

One step up from Arial. I am disappoint.

Oh C'mon Admins...

I'm just kidding.

AmIrite?

AmI?

AmI?

OCN is Tahoma using the same trick.

Perhaps you should try a forum about fonts instead of trolling keyboard topics offtopic, because you read a book. And we use Lucida Grande by default, you insensitive clod. Yet you use a computer which does not have proper fonts and a fallback font is used. I bet your book didn't tell you that. I would continue except that this is not a CSS forum either.

Ah, nice choice. Safari default.

And now I learned how default web fonts work.

Sorry, my HTML skillz are nonexistent.

ripster wrote:Sorry, my HTML skillz are nonexistent.

They match up well with your people skills then.

I have turned a new leaf because of Brother Glossywhite.


But we are going offtopic and this post is about laptops.

Nice laptop. What is the keyboard like?

The hell is going on in this thread?

Anyway back on topic, it's because with a widescreen laptop in a >15inch size you end up with a lot of leftover horizontal space so most manufacturers slap a tenkey in there. Razer's new Blade laptop actually has its touchpad (well it has a dumb touchscreen for a touchpad but it serves the same purpose) where the tenkey block is on most laptops and it's one of those innovations where you take one look at it and wonder how on earth it took this long for someone to figure that out.

edit: which actually doesn't help the main keyboard's being woefully off-center, it's just a better place for the touchpad and a better use of space than a dumb tenkey.

I've got an Asus Z83 right here which goes for an odd power functions on the left/condensed width tenkey on the right layout so it's at least slightly more centered than it'd be with a full tenkey and the buttons near the screen.

webwit wrote:Nice laptop. What is the keyboard like?

Not bad. I have a HP DM1z and a HP 210HD right now. And of course the iPad.

The HPs appear to have 20th Century as their laptop font.

The Apple iPad font by default is Helvetica, of course.

I can always provide pics but don't want to derail the thread.

And I'm STILL working out this Trebuchet thing - it's definitely not Arial...