[For sale] Model F PC AT -86, poker caps

#1 Model F 1984, SOLD
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#2 Model F 1986, 65€ + shipping
Fully working, semi broken space, US + Norwegian(?) mix layout, dirty but good condition. Right space stabilizer is somehow broken. It means pressing from left it tilts, but it works fine when pressing middle or right.
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UPDATED: Kb has din5 cable, so you might need adapter(s). With abit ab9 pro motherboard it worked with din -> ps2. But abit ip35 pro mobo needed also blue cube adapter to work. With blue cube I didn't even need to reboot! I can sell 2 blue cubes, but not any din5 -> ps2 adapters.

Model F lowest shipping rate is 21-28€ to EU, 40€ (50usd) to US


#3 Blue cube +9€, not sold separately atm.

#4 KBC Poker original black abs keycaps, like new (except space bar little worn) 15€ shipped to EU (+2€ worldwide)

IBAN or Paypal (gift or add 3,9%)
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I think those Fs are too expensive.
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thats why I added OBO (or best offer)
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I think the prices for the F ATs are actually near market price. Maybe 5€ too much. The ATs have really appreciated in value this year.
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the price for the Fs are almost correct yes i would say 80€ for a good one
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What kind of keycaps do the G84-4100 have? Lasered, Dye Sub or Pad Printed? If they are lasered, I might want one. If they are Dye Subs I definitely want one. But if they are printed I'm not interested.
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Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800LUMDE-2 - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)
My understanding is that they are pad printed abs. But the printing quality is very good.
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RC-1140 wrote:What kind of keycaps do the G84-4100 have? Lasered, Dye Sub or Pad Printed?

Yes ;)

edit: lol, read that wrong, but hey :)

edit2: 'P' on the label in the 2nd pic, so printed.
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Well, then I don't want one. Didn't see the pictures. I already have a pad printed USB one, and I can't stand the shiny worn off ABS anymore, so I had just wanted one for the keycaps. I dislike ABS keycaps in general, and the printing on mine was worn off really fast. I play classical guitar, so I have long fingernails on my right hand, which doesn't help with the durability of the legends.
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Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800LUMDE-2 - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)
I'll take 1x G84-4100 would be good to try. Can't work out how to PM on this forum.
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Price drop. 1986 pics added.

There is some problems with model F function. Leds blinks normally when starting/rebooting comp but in windows it doesn't work anymore :? Couple of days ago it worked after a reboot. And when comp is in sleepmode it wakes up by pressing any key :shock:, but doesnt work :x. I'm using win7 and I'm pretty sure ps2 port nor the adapter is the problem. Any tips?
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Are you using a passive adapter or a converter?

Sometimes passive adapters can't supply enough power to the Ps/2 device and you need to use an active converter. Check out this page on clickykeyboards.com for a better explanation
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thanks akimbo. My adapter is like this:
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dunno which type it is
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BrodyF wrote:thanks akimbo. My adapter is like this:
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dunno which type it is

Pretty sure that is passive. Get an active converter and see if that fixes your problem. The issues you are experiencing sound like the issues I was experiencing with one of my Model M's before I switched to an active PS/2 to USB converter.
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are DIN5 to ps/2 active, i thought it was always passive, not really sure tbh?
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Oh crap...I didn't realize it was a DIN5 he linked. Yes, the DIN5 to PS/2 adapter is passive. What I was referring to as being active was the PS/2 to USB converter. BrodyF should get an active PS/2 to USB converter. Modern MOBOs have trouble supplying sufficient power for old PS/2 devices...so a PS/2 to USB converter cures this problem.

So he should have a setup like:
DIN5-->PS/2 adapter-->PS/2 to USB active converter-->MOBO USB connection
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Adding to what AKIMbO said, not all PS/2 to USB active converters/adapters (terminology varies depending on what you read - I'm referring to the active devices) work with the Model F. On my Lenovo T61, I have found only the Blue Cube works, not the more expensive Ziotec one or cheap Chinese no-brand ones. Because the Blue Cube is quite bulky and may obstruct the adjacent USB port(s), I fit a short USB extension cable between it and its USB port.
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Thanks guys! I think I need blue cube then. Anyone got one for sale?
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BrodyF wrote:Thanks guys! I think I need blue cube then. Anyone got one for sale?

You can get one for £4.75 + shipping here.
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Can't see the pad printing on the pic (as annoying), and seeing how it has GB layout with an ANSI enter; I'd like one.
IF you also accept IBAN..
Guessing you don't have any spare ps/2 cables?
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salt/sambal not included
wont the blue cube affect his nkro? he can always soarers mod it.
will post a pic of my convertors later today so you can see what you need, i am running

Model M silver label ('86)>passive Din5 to ps/2> active bluecube ps/2 to USB> USB to motherboard.

costs like £10 for all of it including postage, i have a spare DIN5 convertor lying around if anyone wants it for free, leme just dig it out.
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off wrote:Can't see the pad printing on the pic (as annoying), and seeing how it has GB layout with an ANSI enter; I'd like one.
IF you also accept IBAN..
Guessing you don't have any spare ps/2 cables?

Do you need better pics or what do you mean? No spare cables. IBAN works.
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I will take a G84-4100

PM me your paypal details
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BrodyF wrote:Do you need better pics or what do you mean? No spare cables. IBAN works.

Cool, have arranged for a cable; so please pm me your stuff! ;)
Meant that I wasn't bothered by what the pic showed from the pad printing; can't even recognize it as such.
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salt/sambal not included
I have a cable off the mini keyboard it will replace sejin electronics SPR 8695 a good rubber dome but i think the MLs will be better.
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Well, I made a generous offer for the two F/ATs which was accepted by the seller (BrodyF). He then messed me about for a couple of days, and said that he wasn't selling because my proof of identity wasn't sufficient. :?: :?:

Good luck to potential buyers.
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Shires wrote:Well, I made a generous offer for the two F/ATs which was accepted by the seller (BrodyF). He then messed me about for a couple of days, and said that he wasn't selling because my proof of identity wasn't sufficient. :?: :?:

Good luck to potential buyers.

Sorry for the mess. I should have checked your profile in the first place. But the fact is you joided DT 14min before you pmd me your offer. And you weren't willing to identify yourself any better when I asked.
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Blue cubes arrived and kbs started working smoothly. Both kbs still for sale!
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Lowered model F prices and added poker caps.
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