o.o Strange. So they use different notations for their own quote signs?

“ ”

“Strange”.

it's even better, LaTeX distinguishes between the German right doublequote (\grqq) and the left english doublequote (written as `` in LaTeX), even though it's absolutely the same symbol. But that's the nature of LaTeX.

But I fear we are going a little bit too deep into Typography at the moment, I'm afraid we already did when we started with the ſ.

RC-1140 wrote:it's even better, LaTeX distinguishes between the German right doublequote (\grqq) and the left english doublequote (written as `` in LaTeX), even though it's absolutely the same symbol. But that's the nature of LaTeX.

But I fear we are going a little bit too deep into Typography at the moment, I'm afraid we already did when we started with the ſ.

Usually you just type " and " at the beginning and end and it turns out to be `` and '' which results in whatever is appropriate for the language or font. No need to worry about these things at the code-entry level.

4 days to go!!!

I orderd

RETRO/BEPO
RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL
RETRO/ARROWUP125/GREEN
RETRO/ARROWJRET
RETRO/SPACE

I also need function keys to cover a french Filco tenkeyless and I tried

RETRO/FUNCTION

without result.

Have I missed something ?

cottie wrote:I orderd

RETRO/BEPO
RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL
RETRO/ARROWUP125/GREEN
RETRO/ARROWJRET
RETRO/SPACE

I also need function keys to cover a french Filco tenkeyless and I tried

RETRO/FUNCTION

without result.

Have I missed something ?

The FUNCTION kit is only available for ROUND3 and SPH:

I just need the 12 function keys (F1 to F12) for RETRO. Is a kit available?

cottie wrote:I just need the 12 function keys (F1 to F12) for RETRO. Is a kit available?

RETRO/FUNCTION12

OK. But on the wiki i read:

FUNCTION12 (Function 12 kit)
This kit consists of 8 function keys, F1-F4, F9-F12 in one color.

What's about F5-F8?

I think they're intended for the standard kit, to alter the colour of a few of them.

Yes,
But with
RETRO/BEPO
RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL
RETRO/ARROWUP125/GREEN
RETRO/ARROWJRET
RETRO/SPACE
I cover all the fr tkl kbd except function keys...
If I add FUNCTION12 I miss 4 keys, and I should take a complete std kit for those 4 keys ?!?

cottie wrote:Yes,
But with
RETRO/BEPO
RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL
RETRO/ARROWUP125/GREEN
RETRO/ARROWJRET
RETRO/SPACE
I cover all the fr tkl kbd except function keys...
If I add FUNCTION12 I miss 4 keys, and I should take a complete std kit for those 4 keys ?!?

There are F1-F12 already in the TKL ....
OOOhh...
Now I see the problem!

RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL is just the modifier keys for a Filco tenkeyless.

You better order:
RETRO/BEPO 0
RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL 0
RETRO/TKLRGBYSYMBEPO 1

Thank you,

so with TKLRGBYSYMBEPO I have a complete ANSI tkl.
And i only need left shift and enter key for an ISO layout?

cottie wrote:Thank you,

so with TKLRGBYSYMBEPO I have a complete ANSI tkl.
And i only need left shift and enter key for an ISO layout?

It is ISO-layout.

Because someone asked:

SPH/LOTUSESC.................11 (white on blue)
SPH/LOTUS125..................7 (white on blue)
ROUND3/LOTUSESC..............14 (white on very dark grey)
ROUND3/LOTUS125...............2 (white on very dark grey)
RETRO/LOTUSESC...............13 (lightblue on dark grey)
RETRO/LOTUS125................5 (lightblue on dark grey)
NOIR/LOTUSESC.................7 (white on black)
NOIR/LOTUS100.................4 (white on black)
NOIR/LOTUS125.................7 (white on black)
ORANJE/LOTUSESC...............7 (orange on very dark grey)
ORANJE/LOTUS125...............7 (orange on very dark grey)

Sooo next round will be DSA?

ot: I don't see* why people would prefer the round3 lotus over the oranje; that one looks so damn nice. The retro one as well ofcourse.

*but that's IMHO ofc.

off wrote:Sooo next round will be DSA?

ot: I don't see* why people would prefer the round3 lotus over the oranje; that one looks so damn nice. The retro one as well ofcourse.

*but that's IMHO ofc.

I think the reason is that nobody found out that they (will) exist.
DSA? No.
Next time:
SA and DCS again, but in different colors, but not so many color-choices!

No outlandish layout crap (7BIT layout FTW!) and only one text-style (CENTERED)!

Ugly.



I like this round. I guess I won’t buy many ABS keys after that anyway…

Thing is, apart from DSA looking hawt, with only one (two inc space) profile; prices should drop over the board and people with outlandish layouts can go haywire. Did I say it looks good?

Since this is the only way to get outlandish kits, I think a lot of us appreciate this GB extremely much!

Would anyone be kind enough to add the 5 keys I want to their order for me? The "additional fees" is pushing my order too high for such a small ammount of keys, I'd of course split the fees as well as paying for the additional postage to the UK.

HzFaq wrote:Would anyone be kind enough to add the 5 keys I want to their order for me? The "additional fees" is pushing my order too high for such a small ammount of keys, I'd of course split the fees as well as paying for the additional postage to the UK.

What 5 keys are these?

1x NOIR/SYMALIEN
3x PHANTOMFUN100
1x NOIR/SPACEOLD

HzFaq wrote:1x NOIR/SYMALIEN
3x PHANTOMFUN100
1x NOIR/SPACEOLD

PHANTOMFUN100 got canceled, becuase there where so few orders.

Shipping/etc. are now calculated with this formula:
4.75*log($invtotal*5), where $invtotal is before low qty-fees!
At around $90 it is $29 and the highest is $45.10 (which is for me ).

So, here's another question about the low quantity fees:
The setup costs at SP are for individual keys, not entire sets; is that correct? Then I wonder why a STANDARD kit + a DVORAK kit is less expensive than a STANDARDDVORAK kit. After all, the specialty keys from the DVORAK set are needed for both. Looking at the following figures, I would say that the ROUND3/DVORAK sub-set has been ordered at least 5 times:

Code: Select all

ROUND3/DVORAK           Dvorak language kit                  18.-
                        low quantity fee (only 3 orders)     32.60
ROUND3/STANDARD         Standard kit (101-104 keys)          97.-
sum .....................................................   147.60

ROUND3/STANDARDDVORAK   Standard DVORAK kit (101-104 keys)  119.-
                        low quantity fee (only 2 orders)     37.-
sum .....................................................   156.-

These low quantity fees make being a Dvorakian a very expensive hobby. BTW, I don't want to sound too negative as I really appreciate your organizing this group buy :thumbsup:

Kurrk wrote:So, here's another question about the low quantity fees:
The setup costs at SP are for individual keys, not entire sets; is that correct? Then I wonder why a STANDARD kit + a DVORAK kit is less expensive than a STANDARDDVORAK kit. After all, the specialty keys from the DVORAK set are needed for both. Looking at the following figures, I would say that the ROUND3/DVORAK sub-set has been ordered at least 5 times:

Code: Select all

ROUND3/DVORAK           Dvorak language kit                  18.-
                        low quantity fee (only 3 orders)     32.60
ROUND3/STANDARD         Standard kit (101-104 keys)          97.-
sum .....................................................   147.60

ROUND3/STANDARDDVORAK   Standard DVORAK kit (101-104 keys)  119.-
                        low quantity fee (only 2 orders)     37.-
sum .....................................................   156.-

These low quantity fees make being a Dvorakian a very expensive hobby. BTW, I don't want to sound too negative as I really appreciate your organizing this group buy :thumbsup:

Ideally it should be the other way round.
To get accurate pricing is a matter of conquering the complexity of all these combinations!

I've got to takle a look at that problem with the DVORAK kits ...

Solved.

Typo in the input data (the price list).


Now comes the other problem ....

Could you run the order update script once a day please bud Never sure how the ordering works in the background. If I make constant amendments it's easy to lose track of what's ordered. Want to get this right over the next few days

Decided I'm all about the sphericals and need to go dvorak!

dirge wrote:Could you run the order update script once a day please bud Never sure how the ordering works in the background. If I make constant amendments it's easy to lose track of what's ordered. Want to get this right over the next few days

Decided I'm all about the sphericals and need to go dvorak!

Script is running!

Carry on with adding more key caps!!!

Cool, put in what I think is my order. When I get the next email I'll pay some towards it, when I get paid

(also not connected to group4 but managed to get a near full set of 'yellow' wyse thick doubleshot in UK ISO layout, talk about winner! my wyse board remain in tackt until I can convert him to usb)