Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro JP

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guilleguillaume

26 Apr 2012, 18:44

I made some quick photos of my Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro JP

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I enjoy both versions of HHKB but I think I would choose this over the regular one.

I'm still studying how to make work the dead keys of the JIS layout :ugeek:

woody
Count Troller

26 Apr 2012, 19:35

Could you post any DIP manual it has, like the sticker on the bottom side of the original HHKB Pro? And any leaflet or whatever that has any useful info.

GeorgeStorm

26 Apr 2012, 19:49

That is a beautiful looking board, and I think it looks fantastic with just the CC keycap, nothing over the top, very jelly :)

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Julle

26 Apr 2012, 20:16

Nice board!

I'm expecting a certain someone to make a comment about the cursor keys any moment now.

ripster

26 Apr 2012, 20:54

OK, I'll repeat myself....
Arrows FTW!

Where IS that HHKB3?

Or the Pure for that matter?
I keep telling people I post the same way on DT/GH/OCN/[H]forum...

It's Reddit where I get dirty.

kaiserreich

27 Apr 2012, 13:35

What does the "HH" key do?

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off

27 Apr 2012, 13:54

Damnit. Now you're making me want a HHKB. Great.
JP ofc.
But I'll happily wait 'till you at least get all those keys/layers working :D

awesome board+cc you got there.

GeorgeStorm

27 Apr 2012, 15:25

Where did you get it from?

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guilleguillaume

27 Apr 2012, 16:36

woody wrote:Could you post any DIP manual it has, like the sticker on the bottom side of the original HHKB Pro? And any leaflet or whatever that has any useful info.
Will try to do pictures of the back and the box. It explains really well what DIP switches do.
kaiserreich wrote:What does the "HH" key do?
This key acts as the one that send ººººººººººººººº or ªªªªªªªªªªªªªªª. Is the one on the left of Number 1 in the number row in a standar keyboard, I can't remember the name of it

off right now the keys that don't do anything are those:
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I've never used Insert key so I don't miss the key near Back Space and the other ones I have to figure out how to recognise the code they send in case they are sending anything.
GeorgeStorm wrote:Where did you get it from?
I bought it from Geekstuff4u

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off

27 Apr 2012, 17:18

guilleguillaume wrote:This key acts as the one that send ººººººººººººººº or ªªªªªªªªªªªªªªª. Is the one on the left of Number 1 in the number row in a standar keyboard, I can't remember the name of it :oops:
The tilde '`' key (normally on ansi layout next to '1') does that for you!? :shock: For me it's only ever useful to bring up console in certain games..
guilleguillaume wrote: off right now the keys that don't do anything are those:[pic]
I've never used Insert key so I don't miss the key near Back Space and the other ones I have to figure out how to recognise the code they send in case they are sending anything.
I hate insert with a passion, only ever tap it on accident :/
Until now that is, on my winkeyless mx11800 I've now set it to winkey, much better.
And recognising keys, if you are a windows user it's as easy* as grabbing autohotkey and mucking about; on linux it's supposedly even easier using x's default config files or something.
*unless the keys don't send scancodes like laptop 'fn' keys often do.
Spoiler:
authotkey: install, create a new script document, edit in notepad(++), put at least '#installkeybdhook' in there and something that forces the script to stay active (like "Insert:: send {Space}site:geekhack.org OR site:deskthority.net
"), when it's running, doubleclick the icon in your systemtray, 'view' 'key history and script info', tap the key, press F5, see scancode. '
PS: Your white one is so much sexier than that black one. Especially with that cherry on top. Imvho.
PS2: Wtf, the jap version is actually CHEAPER than the normal one!? :o
PS3: Mind sharing how much you got charged by your government etc?

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fossala
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27 Apr 2012, 19:52

You tried xev in linux to get the scancodes?

dsjbirch

28 Apr 2012, 12:05

It has a "bs" key!

kaiserreich

28 Apr 2012, 12:48

They should give the 'HH' key out as standard.
Be a nice replacement for the Fn key

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fossala
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28 Apr 2012, 13:29

kaiserreich wrote:They should give the 'HH' key out as standard.
Be a nice replacement for the Fn key
I've thought that since I first saw the JP.

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webwit
Wild Duck

28 Apr 2012, 13:38

@guilleguillaume
You need to install Japanese language support on your os to activate those keys.

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Trent

30 Apr 2012, 19:52

2 Comments:

1. A blue Esc key, for when you want to exit something quietly!

2. That is the smallest fucking space bar I think I have ever seen!

rodtang

30 Apr 2012, 21:34

Trent wrote:2. That is the smallest fucking space bar I think I have ever seen!
There are 2 unit ones.

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Trent

01 May 2012, 11:10

rodtang wrote:
Trent wrote:2. That is the smallest fucking space bar I think I have ever seen!
There are 2 unit ones.
How would you even type on that?? Seems like a bit of an excessively compact behavior.

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002
Topre Enthusiast

01 May 2012, 11:30

Not every language requires a space between words. Spacebar in Japanese is used for changing the hiragana into kanji/katakana. Japanese typists might not use space nearly as often as a westerner would and when they do, it's usually hitting it multiple times to select the appropriate "spelling".

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off

01 May 2012, 13:39

Trent wrote:
rodtang wrote:
Trent wrote:2. That is the smallest fucking space bar I think I have ever seen!
There are 2 unit ones.
How would you even type on that?? Seems like a bit of an excessively compact behavior.
Why would that not be perfect? I reckon I always hit space within the same two unit area (per hand though; I do use both left and right)..

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7bit

01 May 2012, 14:16

Trent wrote:
rodtang wrote:
Trent wrote:2. That is the smallest fucking space bar I think I have ever seen!
There are 2 unit ones.
How would you even type on that?? Seems like a bit of an excessively compact behavior.
I don't have any trouble using a 1.5 units key on my Tipro keyboard.

Just remove your space bar and put a 1.5 units key on and give it a try!

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off

01 May 2012, 14:32

I was actually using a single key on my space for a month (cleaning caps w dental tabs until the lettering wore; caps still yellow :/ ... protip, don't overdo it, and don't do it without sunshine if you're trying to rid of the yellow instead of the filth)
Single key was decent, just a little small (tapping the side ridge is not that comfortable). I think 3u should be perfect for people that use both thumbs, max 4 if you really like spacious space.

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guilleguillaume

01 May 2012, 18:12

webwit wrote:@guilleguillaume
You need to install Japanese language support on your os to activate those keys.
I've tried it and it works. Never thought of changing the language to JP :lol:

Every key is working if I use JP and it's funny to change between Hiragana and the standar with just one key. Too bad I don't know Japanese :o

off wrote:[...]
And recognising keys, if you are a windows user it's as easy* as grabbing autohotkey and mucking about; on linux it's supposedly even easier using x's default config files or something.
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PS: Your white one is so much sexier than that black one. Especially with that cherry on top. Imvho.
PS2: Wtf, the jap version is actually CHEAPER than the normal one!? :o
PS3: Mind sharing how much you got charged by your government etc?
I've tried to use Insert on the Fn layer and it works so problem solved.

Been using Autohotkey lately and after trying to figure out the scan codes they only get recognised when the input language is JP as Webwit told me.
Spoiler:
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I don't really know if I can make them work in my language input with the number codes, I guess not.

They charged me with 75€ like they did with my Realforce 87U. They don't like me to carry foreigner keyboards :|
Trent wrote:[...]

2. That is the smallest fucking space bar I think I have ever seen!
I love that spacebar. I don't see any reason to have a larger one.

ripster

01 May 2012, 21:34

Hmm... my Filco Zero JP version maps all those special keys fine:
http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes-6.html

;Japanese Keyboard
SC07B::Send "Key Left of Spacebar"
SC079::Send "Key Right of Spacebar"
SC070::Send "Key Left of RALT"
SC073::Send "Key Left of RSHIFT"
SC07D::Send "Key Left of BACKSPACE"

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fossala
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01 May 2012, 21:47

What OS do you use ripster?

ripster

01 May 2012, 21:57

W7 64 bit (despite everyones assurance I would never run into 64 bit compatibility problems it DOES happen to me monthly).

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fossala
Elite +1

01 May 2012, 22:09

What are you using guilleguillaume? Do you have a W$ndows PC somewhere to check it on that?

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guilleguillaume

01 May 2012, 23:03

I'm also using W7 64 bits and they send the same codes that Ripster wrote... I'm a noob software user :oops:

I supose it's all about binding those codes to something useful now. Will try to do it and then repost my experiences. Thank you all.

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fossala
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01 May 2012, 23:22

Do any of you use Linux or a BSD at all? If so can you tell me what they come up as in that?

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off

02 May 2012, 11:37

Shameless plug on autohotkey minithread (AFAIcouldfind there wasn't any so I made it).

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