[Photos] Space-cadet keyboard

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Got it from someone who was working at MIT's AI lab when these were being built. He had this one in storage ever since.
I wasn't using Lisp machines in the 80ties, a was just a small innocent little duck back then.

Looks pretty much the section mark to me. Paragraph is in the same row on front of 9. dag, ddag, circ, bullet, all in the same row. Very logically arranged. If it is not the section mark I eat a broom!

You must ask him to tell some stories from the good old times!

Does he remember when this keyboard has been made?

ps: I really must stop looking at these pictures. They make me wonder which of the top lables are in the repertoire of Signature Plastics and how much the front printing will cost ...
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I plan to experiment with a controller like the Aikon, but first I need to experiment with another keyboard before trying it on the Precious. Haven't asked yet for the year it was made. When 3D printing becomes a bit more mainstream and cheaper I'll make a case for it.
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The keycaps whose lettering are yellowed up top, but on the front faces reminds me of my Beam Spring board. I wonder, if like the Beam Spring boards, the front face has been printed using a different technique... Of course, it could just be the case that they haven't been as exposed to sunlight due to their placement.
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daedalus wrote:The keycaps whose lettering are yellowed up top, but on the front faces reminds me of my Beam Spring board. I wonder, if like the Beam Spring boards, the front face has been printed using a different technique... Of course, it could just be the case that they haven't been as exposed to sunlight due to their placement.

I'm quite sure nothing has yellowed.

The front is printed and the tops are doubleshot.

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You can see it at the inside of the keys.
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Yellow on blue, like my SYS key.
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If not yellowed, why white on the inside?

xahlee's adventures took me quite deep into the world of Lisp machines, all the way back to the SAIL keyboard and Lisp machine manuals.

This space-cadet has a black case it seems:

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Anyway, check out this source:
http://www.quadibloc.com/comp/kyb01.htm

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Seems indeed to be a section sign.
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webwit wrote:If not yellowed, why white on the inside? ...

I thought you flashed out the inside. Also, I could not imagine how an unused keyboard can yellow if it is not the AEK.

BTW: there is somewhere a photo of a beige case.

Here it is
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Nice to see a date and time:
08/24/79 12:21:19
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The beige case is how I know it.

Here's another pic of the keycap inside with less flash.

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Seems to be some off-white.
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Fucking Greek key!

My AAPL has dipped below $400!!!!!

I'm quite sure nothing has yellowed.

Seems to be some off-white.

Lol.
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This is much simpler: Hit the RUB OUT key!
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Seller doesn't know exactly when it was made, probably 1982-1983.
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I think I found it's West Coast cousin.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?3076 ... post583611

From Stanfords SAIL labs.
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On the west coast we find 7 modifiers a tad excessive. A little ALT. A bit of Control. Shift. Over the TOP? You Meta believe it!
ripster wrote:My AAPL has dipped below $400!!!!!

False alarm. Closed at 607.7.
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webwit wrote:Image

That's the universal 'activate wormhole' symbol... everybody knows that.
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7bit wrote:Image

Hey, look it even comes with Facebook keys! Those guys really were ahead of their time.
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OK, NOW I'm impressed by a DT wiki entry...

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I'm SO glad I'm not a programmer. My attempts at beards are sooooo scraggly.
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The Knight keyboard and the SAIL keyboard. Still need those. Tom Knight didn't answer my email. Bastard ;) I know he has them. Group buy!
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Based on this photo:

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I'd say it was made in 1982, week 42.

When dating electronics, look for four digit numbers in that format - they tell you the whole story. And, when you can't find one on the board itself or a sticker, look at the chips.
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webwit wrote:The Knight keyboard and the SAIL keyboard. Still need those. Tom Knight didn't answer my email. Bastard ;) I know he has them. Group buy!


Obviously discriminates against people without beards!
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