IBM Model F (AT) - is this layout possible?

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hammelgammler
Vintage

07 Apr 2015, 20:55

Hey guys,

as i think it's the time to get an Model F, and maybe the time will come, who knows, i thought about a better layout for me when thinking about an IBM Model F (AT).

Would something like that be possible in any way? :)
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Here's the link to the layout.

So you would basically have a kind of normal mix of HHKB layout and TKL when the numpad is off, and a HHKB layout with numpad, a bit like a 15" notebook.

Would that be possible in any way? :)

Best regards,
David

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scottc

07 Apr 2015, 20:56

I think it might be possible physically if you make shift and numlock into 1.5U and 1.25U but I'm not sure if there are pads under there.

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Khers

07 Apr 2015, 21:06

I think that it's worse than that, scott. I think that the barrels are in the opposite position as compared to the image above. So, shift would be 1u and fn 1.75u...

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scottc

07 Apr 2015, 21:12

Oh right, yeah, that's correct. Let me grab my AT to take a picture...

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Nuum

07 Apr 2015, 21:19

Everything apart from the right shift is possible. The two barrels under the right shift are indeed the other way round, so from the left the 1u barrel and then the 1.75u barrel.

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scottc

07 Apr 2015, 21:22

Just some confirmation that everybody is correct but me ;)
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Note to self: clean out AT insides... :?

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chzel

07 Apr 2015, 21:25

scottc wrote: Note to self: clean out AT insides... :?
I can do that for you! Just send me the keyboard, I'll take care of it! :mrgreen:

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scottc

07 Apr 2015, 21:27

chzel wrote:
scottc wrote: Note to self: clean out AT insides... :?
I can do that for you! Just send me the keyboard, I'll take care of it! :mrgreen:
You pay for shipping both ways, deal? ;)

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chzel

07 Apr 2015, 21:28

Yeah sure, unless return shipping is way too expensive, in which case I'll just keep it! :evilgeek:

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hammelgammler
Vintage

07 Apr 2015, 21:45

Well thank you for your answers! :)
Then i think my layout would be something like this, everything blank. :D

Now i only need to know how to do it, and if there are any special things needed, such as a Teensy or something like that, to program that layout in "hardware".
Or should i just remap every key via software? If via software, the keys would not work as intended in the bios and everything non-OS right?

Rotti

08 Apr 2015, 23:48

Just wanted to chime in and let you know there is a pad under every barrel +2 extras under the ends of the space bar.

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Muirium
µ

09 Apr 2015, 11:00

Short answer: yes, it should all be fine, and definitely use a Teensy.

Long answer: I did a lot of this myself just recently, here:

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/open ... t9791.html

The AT's controller puts out strange codes for the hidden keys, like the one trapped behind big ass Enter. You're best to intercept those in hardware.

andrewjoy

09 Apr 2015, 11:02

IT should work,

it would be better if you split that + on the num pad and put in a tab key , all the cool kids are doing it

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Muirium
µ

09 Apr 2015, 11:20

If that numpad block was 3 units wide instead of 4, I wouldn't even waste the space with numbers! It's a navigation island.

cherry-jade

09 Apr 2015, 16:24

I have F.It's fell good .

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