[Vendor] ErgoDox PCBs, Cases, Electronics and Assembly Services.

I have opened a new web shop selling custom keyboard parts and services, mainly ErgoDox but planning to start selling GH60 later this summer too.
You can browse the stock, and make purchases at this address: http://falbatech.pl
Please note that it's purely commercial shop - it's rather a personal project to bring custom keyboards to masses.
Make them available and affordable with only super small profits to make it self sustainable (pay the bills for the server, domain, certificate, CNC machine time, etc.) as both me and my brother (who helps me run this) have full time jobs and we don't really need any extra money. Whatever additional income we make we just help ourselves to invest in pushing current projects forward. At the moment our main goal is to bring wireless ErgoDox (as we internally call ErgoBT) to market. We will also make the schematics Open Source so others can start producing and popularising design too.
We will also do regular charity auctions of limited edition keyboards and keycaps. Profits from those will be sent to: http://iccf-holland.org or any other foundation you would like to support.
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I want one right the way it came out of the factory!
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These look fantastic, looks like they'd end up a bit out of my current price range once I bought everything for them, though.

Ps: good EUR -> ZL exchange rate, very exact! :D
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Do you have any plans to distribute keycaps as well? IIRC you mentioned in some other thread that you weren't satisfied with DSA, or something like that.
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Super great work so far
Do you have any pics of the PVC plastic case?
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_robban wrote:Super great work so far
Do you have any pics of the PVC plastic case?

I believe prototypes are here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47408.0
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Guys everything will be available, including keycaps. The thing is that this is not a business, but non profit project and I don't want to invest too much money in it. So I need to start selling stuff (to get the money I already invested back) to get more stuff in stock.
As a matter of fact 7bit already agreed on helping me with making MX switches available. If you order a set of PCB + Electronics you can also add 7bit's MX switches and they will all be sent to you.
You can also order fully assembled keyboard (without keycaps so far) and I'll manage the switches from 7bit as well.
Of course I don't want to make any profit on that so prices of Cherries come from 7bit.
All I want is not to lose money, and to make ErgoDox keyboards easier to get, without stupid MassDrop wait. I think this is fair.

Also the price doesn't look bad really... Whole set like the one on MassDrop (just with better case) would cost you about 160€ (depending on MX price from 7bit), that's slightly more than their price but assuming you're in Europe it's actually lower as you don't pay that much for shipping and you can ignore import duties. Also if you order assembly service it's actually cheaper than theirs.
Oh and have I mentioned? There is no wait :)
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Keep the momentum going!
Alright. I'm interested. East coast US here, can I get some numbers and a relative shipping estimate (3 weeks, 6 weeks, etc) for a fully assembled Ergodox sans keycaps?

Also, any pictures of the aluminium case yet?
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This is awesome. A colleague of mine is currently looking for an Ergodox. I will tell him about your offering. I'm even tempted to get one for myself.
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Well done, great job!
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Ok guys this is still work in progress project. Currently I'm still waiting for the rest of electronics to be delivered so I can build fully working prototype. Hopefully that happens by the end of this week.
As for now I can only offer you those PCBs and Teensies which I have stocked.
I think the fully assembled keyboard in PVC case would be around 160€, and I can offer a free engraving of any text or logo (which you give me in some vector format, preferably DXF) on top of the case for free :)
Shipping of the keyboard within Europe would be about 20€ (usually 18-22, I use a proxy service and their prices are variable) using one of the major couriers (GLS, DHL, UPS, DPD).
Shipping outside Europe will definitely be more expensive using courler, and using standard post should be more or less the same.
Of course shipping just the PCB or PCB + electronics will be much cheaper (max 10€) as it could be sent as a registered and tracked letter.
BTW. I amended the case designs slightly (https://github.com/cezaryfalba/ErgoDox-CNC-Case) last weekend but I'm still not sure it will be the final version :) we might need slightly deeper cutouts for Teensy / I/O Expander. I also need to add some cover for the bottom - some hard rubber or light plastic.
And the aluminium case is the next priority after getting the prototype working. I'm going to make the prototype of the Alu case myself but the final cases will be made by 3rd party company as with my machines it's just too slow and I just simply don't have enough time to work with it for that long.
Also to be honest the new PVC cases look really cool which kind of makes me more lazy about the aluminium case ;)
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Keep the momentum going!
I also want one. I can't wait for the final version to come. Will there be different colors of cases available (pvc and alu)?
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Ok I've got a little update. Yesterday I received final components and put together first fully working prototype just to see if my TRRS theory (with not matching TRRS sockets with moved pins and removed pegs) worked. It all works as expected and I'm very happy to tell you that a set of electronics (diodes, resistors, capacitors, I/O expander, USB socket, TRRS sockets, TRRS cable and USB cable) is available for 17€. If you order it with PCB I will pre-solder TRRS sockets so you don't need to make your hands dirty modifying the sockets. If you want I can also solder all other components into the PCB as a partial assembly for 10€ but I strongly suggest you do it yourself as it's a lot of fun!
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Keep the momentum going!
Here are the pics of the working prototype I made yesterday:

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Keep the momentum going!
Wow! I say again, great work mate!
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Damn, this looks nice. I'm seriously consider getting one. My only worry is whether I will still like my other boards after trying an Ergodox.
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When do you plan to start selling the PVC cases?
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Hi there,

I would have no issue with you making a profit: that is taking some time to manage such things.

I was wondering: would it be possible to have such a board but without all the keys mounted? I don't need all these keys (I'm not using all the keys of my 60% board and sometimes I'm even considering a 40% board)

Sadly I can't solder: never fear anything more than a software developer with a soldering iron goes the saying (at least something like that) :D

So I'd need to say which keys I need and which I don't and have someone assemble it for me: and I could pay for that. Then I wonder too: what happens with the empty spots? Would the cover have "holes" in it at these spots?

Would blue Cherry MX work on such a beast? What about Topre, does such a thing exist as an ErgoDox with Topre?

I'm new to this ErgoDox thing but I'm beginning to warm up :)
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Not to advertise this keyboard any more than it already has been but I'm totally switched to using this from today. First 2 hours at work with it was a hell on earth and you have no idea how many swear words Polish language has (i also didn't know). But right now I'm in love. With both the layout, the looks, and surprisingly the vintage black switches.
I know i have to go to my workshop after work to work on the final case designs but I really want to stay longer here just to type on this a little more :D
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Keep the momentum going!
I'm interested and you definitly need to make a profit. That way you wont get burned out on this project. At the very least it will give you something to look forward to. This is a custom item, and people are willing to pay more money for it.
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Yep, right!
:-)

It is not only the parts, but you have to value your own working time as well.
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jwpierce3 wrote:I'm interested and you definitly need to make a profit. That way you wont get burned out on this project. At the very least it will give you something to look forward to. This is a custom item, and people are willing to pay more money for it.

true.

I'ld like to call for an option to also order the plate seperately from the case. Building a case ain't that hard and some people might have special options in mind, wooden, whatnot. Making a plate on the other hand needs more precise work - or more man-hours if you will - hence being able to order them seperately without being forced to buy the whole case would be great. :)
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i would probably be interested in this, specially with an aluminium case...
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Well if you think my work is worth something I'm open for donations with the order :) I'll share that with poor children in Africa of course :)

BTW first orders for the PCBs and PCB + electronics have been shipped out today. Hope you enjoy them guys!
Over weekend I'll work on the case. Got some ideas and I'm sure I'll get it right this time. I have also ordered more PVC plates which I should receive next week, so if we're lucky I can take orders for the cases next week too.
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Keep the momentum going!
I am very interested in this project, particularly the fully-assembled option. Although I already have a batch of components sitting in a box on my desk, I'd really like to have one built. Having a choice of switches via 7bit is just an added incentive!

Your PVC cases are pretty impressive, but I'd like to see an aluminium prototype once you get to that stage.
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Are there blue pcbs?
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Massdrop has the PCBs in blue, but I think czarek is only doing black PCBs for the moment. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox-pcb?mode=guest_open
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The IBMs: echo -e "\n"86\'\ {101,101}" Model M" "\n"\#\#\'\ {XT,Bigfoot,AT,107,122}" Model F"
The rest:
wait czarek is "doing" the pcbs???
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Hey czarek how much can we expect for the full assembly with metallic case?
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maxrunner wrote:wait czarek is "doing" the pcbs???

czarek wrote:Ok so for now I'm only offering PCBs. [...] The price is 25€ and I'm going to ship worldwide [...] Don't worry about the supply, when the stock will be low, I'll order another batch.

Well, he's sourcing them from a local company and reselling them on a worldwide scale at least.
maxrunner wrote:Hey czarek how much can we expect for the full assembly with metallic case?

czarek wrote:I think the fully assembled keyboard in PVC case would be around 160€ [...] As for cases there will be 2 options.
1. Made of machined PVC plastic for 50€
2. Made of machined aluminium then anodised for at least 100€, but this could be more...

160€ - 50€ (the PVC case) + 100€ (the aluminium case) = 210€ (estimated cost for aluminium case w/ assembly) ≈ 290$

All information taken from the first post in this thread... :roll:
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The IBMs: echo -e "\n"86\'\ {101,101}" Model M" "\n"\#\#\'\ {XT,Bigfoot,AT,107,122}" Model F"
The rest:
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