Problem with not distinguishing lower and uppercase in usernames!
- 7bit
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First a little true story:
Once, a long time ago, I had to delete some files from a machine running MS-Windows.
It appeared that a lot of files I wanted to delete started with A. So, I typed:
del A*.*
I was a bit surprised that files whose names started with a disappeared as well!
In the 'good' old CP/M and DOS days, life was good. You knew everything is uppercase and if you can type filenames in lowercase that is only for convenience.
There simply where no files starting with a lower case a.
Then, MS added a new feature: Names may contain lower and upper case characters. So far, so good, except that Filname.exe, filename.exe and FILENAME.EXE are now 3 different names for one and the same file!
Worse:
If I list a directory, it shows me filename.exe, so deleting F*.exe seems to do no damage ...
Now, back to the problem I encountered today:
Someone pays and uses the wrong user ID, as it seems.
In fact: For whatever reason, the pm system now writes his username with an uppercase letter so my bot thinks:
A new customer!
But nope:
A returning customer that now has 2 accounts with the bot and is charges twice for the shipping, and will actually even get 2 shippings etc. Also: He can't access his previous account anymore (no way to change the address etc.)
My question:
Is it possible to make sure that the names do not change from lower to upper case once in a while when pm's are sent?
Or, to be more precise: Have a definite definition how these usernames are spelled? It was not the first time I had that trouble.
Once, a long time ago, I had to delete some files from a machine running MS-Windows.
It appeared that a lot of files I wanted to delete started with A. So, I typed:
del A*.*
I was a bit surprised that files whose names started with a disappeared as well!
In the 'good' old CP/M and DOS days, life was good. You knew everything is uppercase and if you can type filenames in lowercase that is only for convenience.
There simply where no files starting with a lower case a.
Then, MS added a new feature: Names may contain lower and upper case characters. So far, so good, except that Filname.exe, filename.exe and FILENAME.EXE are now 3 different names for one and the same file!
Worse:
If I list a directory, it shows me filename.exe, so deleting F*.exe seems to do no damage ...
Now, back to the problem I encountered today:
Someone pays and uses the wrong user ID, as it seems.
In fact: For whatever reason, the pm system now writes his username with an uppercase letter so my bot thinks:
A new customer!
But nope:
A returning customer that now has 2 accounts with the bot and is charges twice for the shipping, and will actually even get 2 shippings etc. Also: He can't access his previous account anymore (no way to change the address etc.)
My question:
Is it possible to make sure that the names do not change from lower to upper case once in a while when pm's are sent?
Or, to be more precise: Have a definite definition how these usernames are spelled? It was not the first time I had that trouble.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
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Last PMs I got, it doesn't have that problem, i.e. lowercase remains lowercase. Perhaps you can send me an example?
- 7bit
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2015-01-06 I got the last message with his username in lowercase
2015-02-13 the first in uppercase.
I'm quite sure it has to do with the update.
Not a big issue, but happens from time to time.
2015-02-13 the first in uppercase.
I'm quite sure it has to do with the update.
Not a big issue, but happens from time to time.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
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That sounds weird because it either always messes with the case or it doesn't.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
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Thanks for the username. Found it. The user changed his name. Club members can do that, which is a permission setting. Not sure if that setting was by accident or purpose or if we should change it.
- Muirium
- µ
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I always assumed anyone could. It's rare, but a couple of examples are Kurrk >> Kurk and rjrich >> Hypersphere.
Club secretary has to track these things!
Club secretary has to track these things!
- Madhias
- BS TORPE
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It was me
madhias is now ... tataaa: Madhias!
madhias is now ... tataaa: Madhias!
- seebart
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Seriously? I never noticed! But you're still the same to me![emoji1]Madhias wrote:It was me
madhias is now ... tataaa: Madhias!
- seebart
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Now that I look at my own nick...I could change like Madhias also!
- seebart
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No I think in my case it won't make a difference anyway.[emoji6]Muirium wrote:Whatever it takes to irritate 7bit.
Then once everyone's used to Seebart, edit it back!
- Muirium
- µ
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Yeah, go with what you were born with, like, uh, 7bit? Son of 5 and 6bit?
7bit edit: I suddenly realise Seebart's a smart one! Congratulations on winning the ultimate rank in 7bit's group buys! I'm way off the other end, myself…
7bit edit: I suddenly realise Seebart's a smart one! Congratulations on winning the ultimate rank in 7bit's group buys! I'm way off the other end, myself…
- Muirium
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Wait, is his dad ASCAII?
Technically, my folks were a trans-uranic nucleus and an alpha particle on a bit of a quantum bender…
Technically, my folks were a trans-uranic nucleus and an alpha particle on a bit of a quantum bender…
- seebart
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Actually I did twice but then forgot about my own order until it was sold out.[emoji45]7bit wrote:I will never understand why people change their name!
@seebart:
Why did you never order anything from me.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
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I revoked the name changing privilege because it would drive Muirium and 7bit mad.
- 7bit
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Thanks!
So in a broader sense, it was really a bug.
If someone really must change his name, the best thing is to contact me first and ask about the implications.
So in a broader sense, it was really a bug.
If someone really must change his name, the best thing is to contact me first and ask about the implications.
- Daniel Beardsmore
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Even Acorn's DFS was case insensitive, case preserving! MS-DOS filenames were retarded.