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Y NO model M bolt mod article?

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:02
by Daniel Beardsmore
I've just created this as a stub, as I was amazed to find that it did not exist:

[wiki]Bolt mod[/wiki]

I'll let someone with more experience write the rest of the page. I don't even have a blasted 7/32" hex spanner to open my Model M :(

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:09
by JBert
I thought mods were only to be posted in the workshop forum and not in the wiki - mainly because everyone could start creating pages like "YYY's Bolt mod" and "XXX's nuts and bolts".

It's such a common term though that it shouldn't hurt to have the page, it can still link to relevant threads in the workshop forum or elsewhere.

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:13
by webwit
There are no such rules.

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:15
by Muirium
Don't forget the floss mod.

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:17
by Daniel Beardsmore
Jbert:

Normally, I would agree with you. I don't think mods have any place on the Deskthority wiki. That, said, there's a whole section of the wiki devoted to modding:

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Keyboard_modding

However, the bolt mod is not a mod in the usual sense (improvement or aesthetic change) — it's a standard repair procedure to combat a deficiency in the original design. I always thought "bolt mod" was some sort of frivolous change, before I learnt what it actually meant. That is the sort of information that I feel really does belong on the wiki.

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:23
by Muirium
Indeed. I'm of the opinion the Wiki can have the whole gamut, all the way to Brobots, so long as it's kept organised sensibly. But, in any case, the bolt mod is more of a restoration technique than its name implies.

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:28
by JBert
webwit wrote:There are no such rules.
Ok, I re-read the wiki thread and it turns out it was merely a suggestion by sixty:
sixty wrote:Btw, we will have to decide what type of content we put in the wiki and what type of content we rather keep on the board. My suggestion is anything remotely close to a guide should be in the Workshop section, while the wiki only is home to real information.

Any other suggestions?
I replied on that post back then that exceptions should be possible ( http://deskthority.net/post6399.html#p6399 ) but nobody added any further comments about it, so indeed, there's no such rule.
Daniel Beardsmore wrote:However, the bolt mod is not a mod in the usual sense (improvement or aesthetic change) — it's a standard repair procedure to combat a deficiency in the original design. I always thought "bolt mod" was some sort of frivolous change, before I learnt what it actually meant. That is the sort of information that I feel really does belong on the wiki.
I know, I know, so we can agree to agree.

Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 23:57
by webwit
I think (new) mods should start in workshop, and when they stabilize, get a wiki entry which references to the topic, like JBert suggested. Something similar thing for old, common mods. Although whether the mod in the wiki should be only an overview and leaves the details to the forum topic, or provides a detailed step-by-step guide, I'd leave to the person(s) who write the forum topic and/or wiki entry. The forum provides better means for discussion and additional insights, but the wiki might provide better tools to get into detail, with less noise.

Re: AW: Y NO model M bolt mod article?

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 00:15
by mintberryminuscrunch
IMO the more information is in the wiki, the more it will be used, which is a good thing

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 00:17
by dondy
what about DIY stuff i was going to add some cheap alternatives to the keypullers on the wiki - would that be welcome? :)

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 00:37
by webwit
Sure, just be aware that you don't own anything in the wiki, i.e. people might change it or add to it.

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 01:04
by dondy
oh i most definitely don't - i didn't even have the original idea to those keycap pullers - it's just that i thought that if there was a really cheap alternative to those mentioned there it should also be in the list :)

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 01:20
by webwit
Well, haven't you started yet? We're waiting! :twisted:

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 01:27
by dondy
oh, i did already add what i wanted - i just didn't add pictures / references yet (see discussion) because i'd much rather have a n-th beer right now ;)

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 01:30
by Daniel Beardsmore
Careful: we may get you writing all the other missing articles :twisted:

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 01:32
by dondy
me no understud miszing artiklz >o>...

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 01:37
by Daniel Beardsmore
U NO FOOL ME

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 02:03
by dondy
goddammit

Posted: 24 Jun 2013, 21:22
by rknize
FWIW to you guys, I threw this together last year as I happen to be repairing an M at the time. It's not totally complete and the pics aren't great, but most of it is there:

http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?titl ... d_Bolt_Mod

There is also this, that I re-made from the old GH Wiki:

http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?titl ... ame_Repair

Posted: 24 Jun 2013, 22:58
by Daniel Beardsmore
geekhack wiki! *hisses and makes sign of the cross*

Cute kitty though.

Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 22:33
by Daniel Beardsmore
dondy wrote:me no understud miszing artiklz >o>...
Challenge for you — write up this one: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cf ... /id/474394

You may upload all those photos to the wiki with proper credit, according to a recent post I read from clickykeyboards.

(I found that photo by accident last night when researching the Monterey K104 and K108. I wasn't even sure whether it was real, Photoshopped, or hacksawed. It seems to be completely real.)

Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 02:23
by dondy
Image

though i believe the cake is a lie! :<

Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 21:26
by Daniel Beardsmore
Dunno about cake, but the apple pie I just ate was real … unless I am just a figment of your imagination. (Which is unlikely, as even your imagination isn't that twisted.)