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Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:28
by dirge
Please guys, can you check off if we've paid. I have, would love to know its in the right account and ready to progress :)

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 21:22
by 7bit
dirge wrote:Please guys, can you check off if we've paid. I have, would love to know its in the right account and ready to progress :)
OK, invoices went out for everybody.

If something is wrong, please tell me!

BUT: If you paid 2 or 3 days ago, please wait until the end of the week, as you peyment might not be on my bank account yet.

If you paid via PayPal<-- :evil: , please wait 180 days before you take action!

Thanks!

Ah, yes: deadline is now 2012-02-13.
:shock:

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 21:40
by Half-Saint
I paid today via bank transfer, payment will be processed tomorrow.

BTW, I know this might sound like a stupid question but can a standard Cherry G80-3000 keycap set be used on the Phantom? I don't have time to read the whole thread again

Cheers

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 21:43
by Half-Saint
* * * EU Soldering Service * * *

If anyone needs my soldering services for the Phantom, do let me know soon, so we can arrange for the parts to be shipped to me.

Cheers
SainT

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 23:04
by 7bit
Half-Saint wrote:I paid today via bank transfer, payment will be processed tomorrow.

BTW, I know this might sound like a stupid question but can a standard Cherry G80-3000 keycap set be used on the Phantom? I don't have time to read the whole thread again

Cheers
If you order the PHANSI plate you can use ANSI layout key caps of a windows keys less G80-1000/3000.

If you order PHISO, you can use G80-1000/3000 ISO and G80-2550/2551 key caps.

The WIN version (PHANSIWIN and PHISOWIN) are good for keycaps from those kbds with win keys.

PH7BIT: That one is special. I think a G80-2551 would be nice to have, so you have got enough keys to cover all switches. Some might have a smaller size than possible, but that should not be a problem.
^^Troublesome might be the space bar and some other 1.5 units keys. You only get 4 1.5 units keys with the G80-2551.
On the other hand, a blank 1 units key might make up a good space bar too!

Then, there is Round 4!

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 23:06
by 7bit
Half-Saint wrote:* * * EU Soldering Service * * *

If anyone needs my soldering services for the Phantom, do let me know soon, so we can arrange for the parts to be shipped to me.

Cheers
SainT

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Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 12:11
by dirge
Got my confirmation, thanks. Now to play the waiting game... waiting game sucks, Iets play hungry hungry hippos!

Looking forward to this, just need to get the perfect keycaps, fingers crossed I'm lucky enough to get some of Ascii's :)

Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 17:32
by Swede
So, Now I am almost done with my case for the Phantom. However I am getting some wierd mesurements when lining up the mountingplate for the keycapholes.

The first F1-F4 row is uneven in the assembly, but not any other F row is uneven. ESC is offcenter in its hole as well.

Have checked the assembly for the mountingplate sitting in an angle, but it is not. And the mountingplate is straight when checked. Used PrinsValiums drawings and got them into Solidworks, where I model everything.

I might have the wrong mesurements for the top part of the case, so showing the measurements I have.

http://i.imgur.com/Ke73L.png

Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 17:58
by bpiphany
I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say (uneven?) But measurements in mm's is a bad start. The Phantom is designed in inches, try to keep it to that as far as possible. There are CAD files for the mounting plates. They are generated from the same KiCAD files as the Gerber PCB files. So they should line up perfectly =)

All 1X switches are mounted 0.75" apart, as the standard says. C-C measurements between switches are a lot more interesting than the outer edges of your case. The C-C distance between the function row and number row is 1.10" and between F12 and PrintScreen 0.95".

Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 18:19
by Swede
Ughhh... I hate Inch ;)

But I got the measurements for the topcover in mm, and I have no case where I can get my own measurements...

What I mean by "uneven" is that the top of F1 is 2.7mm from the edge and F4 is 2.75mm. F5 to F12 is 2.8mm from the top.

http://i.imgur.com/0PLX4.png

ESC is 2.7 from the top edge, and 3.33 from the bottom. And right and left is not centered either.

But the C-C Distance is correct..
1x is 0.75
Function to numrow is 1.10, and checked every function. Must mean My topcover is wrong.
F12 PrintScreen is 0.95

Should I change everything to inch to make this work properly?
Edit: changing from mm to inch would not do anything, unless I get new measurments from a case :S

Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 23:35
by bpiphany
Well, since you know the distance between every pair of individual switches. All you need to do is to draw them out and add a mm or so along the edge. Doesn't matter what the Filco case measures out to. The phantom PCB and plate is designed after the measurements you've got, they are "better" than what the Filco engineers came up with in this case. You also know the dimensions of the Phantom plate since they are in the CAD files. You've really got all the information you could possibly ask for... =D

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 00:02
by Swede
Yeah, I know I have all the info I need (and that yours are correct), that's why I am so perplexed about the assembly beeing wrong :o

Think I need to start over, covering all bases this time. And hopefully not making a complete ripoff from the 356, as it is now :P

But maybe I just need to adjust ESC(on my model), as it is now it's off center and the mountingplate is dead center :roll:

Edit: Going to make it from the Mountingplate this time.
Btw, does anyone have a tip on how to secure the Plate later when mounted? Right now I am planning on pressing it down via the topcover into the bottom, where I have some sort of foam.
This will only cause unnessesarily tight tolerances, and put stress on the PCB :?

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 02:11
by litster
We have not received payments for the following buyers:

Invoice# BuyerName
0007 slueth
0058 iJustin
0067 Ciardhubh
0096 Donbabbeo
0111 F u r u y a
0124 Vast
0125 zhiren
0128 Mrinterface

Furuya, you have a balance $55. You have not paid in full, unless you removed items from your order that we don't kwow about.

We are missing a few more payments from EU buyers, but 7bit said they these people will pay today so I am not listing them here.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 12:13
by Vast
I already talked with 7bit about a week ago. Some components of my PC died so I've had to replace them and I don't have the money for the Phantom right now. I told him to cancel it but he said he was ordering it anyway :?

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 12:36
by 7bit
Vast wrote:I already talked with 7bit about a week ago. Some components of my PC died so I've had to replace them and I don't have the money for the Phantom right now. I told him to cancel it but he said he was ordering it anyway :?
You can cancel it by sending CLEARALL to Phantom.

But I will also reserve you the parts for your order, to give you time to decide whether you want it or not.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 12:42
by 7bit
litster wrote:We have not received payments for the following buyers:

Invoice# BuyerName
0007 slueth
0058 iJustin
0067 Ciardhubh<---EUR payment / might have paid.
0096 Donbabbeo<---EUR payment / might have paid.
0128 Mrinterface<---EUR payment / might have paid.
Fixed that for you.

EUR bank transfers are not always that quick.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 15:18
by dirge
Good that your ordering a few extra bits, I'm worried that I may end up killing things and needing replacements :)

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 17:32
by Swede
dirge wrote:Good that your ordering a few extra bits, I'm worried that I may end up killing things and needing replacements :)
That would be a bit of a disaster, killing your board and there are no extras :|

Hoping this won't happen to me :?

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 11:15
by 7bit
litster wrote:We have not received payments for the following buyers:

Invoice# BuyerName
0007 slueth<---PayPal ?
0058 iJustin<---PayPal ?
Only 2 remaining.

:-)

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 15:07
by Minskleip
I paid, hurrah

Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 23:12
by litster
FYI, we are in the process of doing some accounting work and getting parts ordered. It is going to take a few days to a week to get everything ordered.

Posted: 17 Feb 2012, 10:05
by Zoxc
Where are the mounting plates made? The price seems quite nice for those. I do want a plate with 2 more function keys as long as it's reasonably priced.

The mounting plate is supposed to be held in place by pressure and with the three holes to make it unable to slide right?
I was kinda hoping to make a case out of wood or something without having to clutter up the top with screws. Have anyone come up with such a design?

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 00:51
by litster
Ragnorock on Geekhack is organizing a group buy of a set of red on black 87-key set with an add-on kit for Phantom (1.5x modifiers and 1x diamond keys). Also available is a 104 add-on set. There is also an ISO add-on kit if it reaches 15 orders.

Link here: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?2747 ... ING-ORDERS

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 15:49
by mintberryminuscrunch
PrinsValium wrote:
mintberryminuscrunch wrote: yea but everytime you try to pull a cap you'll pull the entire switch ;)
I'm not as sure about that as you seem to be...
you're right
those latches are far stronger than I remembered :)

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 20:06
by mintberryminuscrunch
I started an interest check for a RGB set with black lettering here:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?2776 ... ry-RGB-Set
these will fit any of the Phantom Layouts even 7BIT_Layout ;)

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 20:14
by gimpster
More Phantom owners should order a Ragnarok set, we're only 5 orders away from a 30% price drop for the add-on set. Go team, GO!! :)

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 20:30
by mintberryminuscrunch
gimpster wrote:More Phantom owners should order a Ragnarok set, we're only 5 orders away from a 30% price drop for the add-on set. Go team, GO!! :)
was thinking of ordering one just for the price
.. but my wallet says no

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 20:35
by gimpster
mintberryminuscrunch wrote:
gimpster wrote:More Phantom owners should order a Ragnarok set, we're only 5 orders away from a 30% price drop for the add-on set. Go team, GO!! :)
was thinking of ordering one just for the price
.. but my wallet says no
But, "no" means "yes". :evilgeek:

I also threw in for 2 sets of the doubleshot RGBs you linked to, can't wait for those, hopefully we can hit the 75 piece order on them.

Posted: 25 Feb 2012, 02:04
by Icarium
Are we getting Teensy++ or standard?

Posted: 25 Feb 2012, 02:27
by litster
regular small Teensy, not Teensy++.