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IBM 1392554

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 23:28
by photekq
Really bad pics, but just wanted to post some pictures of this thing.. It's like a weird M/F combo.

It seems to be brand new, unused, but stored in a damp area. The springs seem to be a bit corroded and some don't spring properly. Also, that plate!

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Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 23:34
by Muirium
Weird one, eh? I vaguely remember one of these showing up before. It's obviously related to the 50 key "nampad" in the Kishsaver IBM 4704 family, but those are straight Model Fs while this is a hybrid whose membrane and connectors have Model M written all over them.

Bad storage is a pain! That barrel plate looks as dirty as a well used Model F. And the shiny backplate, believe it or not, is actually quite tarnished compared to many a Model F. The mirror finish is usually pristine. So much nicer to look at than the backside of a Model M assembly!

But what's that you're using as a prop in the background…

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 05:15
by wyatt8740
I think those are on the wiki, actually. They look kinda neat, though. I think it was from a cash register or something.

I wonder if it feels and sounds like an F, or if it's dampened a bit by the membrane.

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 06:26
by macmakkara
Yeah these are on wiki. Under 50 key model m. I also have one of those.

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 06:28
by photekq
Although different keycaps on the one which is on the wiki..

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 07:18
by seebart
Very nice find. You have ergo objects popping up in the background photekq! 8-)

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 15:21
by vivalarevolución
I got one of these from tinnie, before he disappeared. A few have popped up on eBay as well. The ones with relegendables are rarer than the ones with printed caps, as I understand. But both look cool.

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 01:48
by orihalcon
I still have some of these on ebay, though mine are the 49 key variant. There's a 50th pad, just have to take out the stabilizer and put another flipper/spring into that barrel if you want to convert to 50 key. Also have the relegendable caps from 4704's if anyone is interested, though those clear caps tend to be rather worn.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=49 ... m&_sacat=0

Can do 10% off of those prices, just PM me if interested.

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 11:21
by terrycherry
What a strange layout. Could it use on modern PC?

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 11:25
by andrewjoy
Ahh the proto-m returns, i always wanted to try one.

I am guessing it uses model M style flippers?

orihalcom are you ones proto M like this or the more classic plastic plate ?

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 22:44
by vivalarevolución
terrycherry wrote: What a strange layout. Could it use on modern PC?
Yes, mine actually works simply with a PS/2 adapter. It has a Model M controller on the inside. But you need a Soarer's converter or phosphorglow's replacement controller to change the layout.

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 01:11
by dorkvader
the M controller it comes with is very similar (but not identical to) a SSK controller from the same timespan, though these were made for quite a while. Here's some pictures of mine (converted and working on USB). the replacement controller is from a rubber dome M that I got from HaaTa
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vade ... 9060149824

These are pretty cool, though they feel more like an M than an F, even though everything but the springs, flippies and PCB are from the F variant. I use mine as a LH pad to compliment mousing around and moving data (cut / copy / paste etc.)

Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 13:59
by hammelgammler
Does anyone know how much a M50 weights? I can't find that information anywhere, would be great to know. :)