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White vs Clear vs Clicky Clear 2.0

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 17:41
by sixty
As some of you might have noticed from this topic, Cherry White switches have suddenly re-appeared out of nowhere. These seem to be produced recently, as Bruce suggests the ones in stock at the keyboardcompany were produced in 2007. Before this, the last time we had heard of the clicky Cherry White switches was at least over two decades ago.

This morning I got a shipment of the "new" Cherry white switches, so here are a few comparison shots to the old whites. Quite different. They truly deserve the name white now.

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* Not pictured: MX White/Clear Clicky "TYPE B" 1989 - looks identical to the other clicky clear one

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So there you have it. Besides the generic Cherry switch changes (such as the smaller logo on the top part of the switch), te new white switches are proper white, while the old ones are transparent. The slider construction is a bit different. The spring is identical to the ancient A type clicky switch. Both the vintage 1987 one and the new 2012 one feel identical to me.

This leaves us with the following:
* Clear/White Clicky Type-A: 80cN, clear stem, black click-slider - 1987-?
* Clear/White Clicky Type-B: 50cN(?), clear stem, clear-slider, feels identical to modern mx blue - 1989-?
* Clear/White Non-Clicky: 55cN, clear stem - 1989-2012
* Solid White Clicky: 80cN, white stem, black-slider - 2007-2012+?

And you thought ALPS was complicated. Cherry is just getting started.

I will probably take better pictures on the weekend.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 17:52
by Mrinterface
Note :

These new cherry whites will also be available in the two switch try bags and the cherry switch numpad tester. My order at conrad.nl came through :-)

Regards.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 17:57
by Gilgam
Lucky one :-)
Conrad.fr doesn't have any ...

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 18:14
by Icarium
sweet!

where did you get the different white/clears?

are the other cherry switches with multiple revisions?

do they feel the same?

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 18:37
by ripster
Back in the Day manufacturers would update their product catalogs.

Becoming more like ALPS Electronics is not a good thing.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:22
by JBert
sixty wrote:Image

So there you have it. Besides the generic Cherry switch changes (such as the smaller logo on the top part of the switch), te new white switches are proper white, while the old ones are transparent. The slider construction is a bit different. The spring is identical to the ancient A type clicky switch. Both the vintage 1987 one and the new 2012 one feel identical to me.

This leaves us with the following:
* Clear/White Clicky Type-A: 80cN, clear stem, black click-slider - 1987-?
* Clear/White Clicky Type-B: 50cN(?), clear stem, clear-slider, feels identical to modern mx blue - 1989-?
* Clear/White Non-Clicky: 55cN, clear stem - 1989-2012
* Solid White Clicky: 80cN, white stem, black-slider - 2007-2012+?

And you thought ALPS was complicated. Cherry is just getting started.

I will probably take better pictures on the weekend.
Where did you get the numbers from? The 2012 spring seems to have 1-2 coils more than the type-A spring, hence I'd guess it would slightly lighter.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:23
by sixty
JBert wrote:Where did you get the numbers from? The 2012 spring seems to have 2 coils more than the type-A spring, hence I'd guess it would slightly lighter.
Numbers are from the data sheet.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:26
by 7bit
What is the difference between blue and white (except for color and spring)?

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:28
by sixty
These types of whites feel entirely different. MX Blue mit Schalldämpfer.. and a bit more mushy. They feel very ALPSish.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:39
by 7bit
:?
So they sound like cracking mushrooms instead of egg-shells, right?

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:41
by sixty
Yes, very good comparison.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 21:03
by Findecanor
I updated the Wiki with this information. Sixty: Can I upload the pictures, or will you?

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 22:37
by Kurk
Moar photos, front and back:
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Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 04:25
by yab8433408
我很想得到一颗这样的轴体 不知道在那可以得到他 如果谁可以帮助我 我会非常感谢他的

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 06:30
by attarian
阿里巴巴网不是有的吗?

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 06:40
by yab8433408
attarian wrote:阿里巴巴网不是有的吗?
这是白化青轴 不是一般的白轴 如果有 请给我连接

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 07:04
by attarian
哦、我晚点查下有没有。

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:02
by 7bit
yab8433408 wrote:
attarian wrote:阿里巴巴网不是有的吗?
这是白化青轴 不是一般的白轴 如果有 请给我连接
albino green?
:lol:

@yab8433408

I try to organise a group buy for them at similar prices as the other switches (around 0.5 EUR or cheaper depending on quantity).

我尝试举办类似的价格其他交换机为他们的团购

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:07
by Icarium
Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:14
by 7bit
Icarium wrote:Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?
LEDs: can be ordered separately from a lot of suppliers for cheap.
Diodes: are soldered to the PCB and are available in the same group buy.

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:28
by Icarium
7bit wrote:
Icarium wrote:Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?
LEDs: can be ordered separately from a lot of suppliers for cheap.
Diodes: are soldered to the PCB and are available in the same group buy.
Yeah, I know but cherry switches are available with both, right?

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:31
by 7bit
Yes, but for the Phantom we need those we will order:
Platemountable without any diode.

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 11:05
by sixty
Icarium wrote:
7bit wrote:
Icarium wrote:Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?
LEDs: can be ordered separately from a lot of suppliers for cheap.
Diodes: are soldered to the PCB and are available in the same group buy.
Yeah, I know but cherry switches are available with both, right?
Diodes in the switch need a more complex and more cramped PCB design. As the Phantom has so many extra holes in the PCB, I think the didodes were chosen to be placed outside of the switch. This is why switches with Diodes would be kinda useless.

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 11:17
by Tarkoon
So how would you describe the difference between Greens and the new Whites?

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 12:15
by webwit
I love how the Cherry fanboys are wetting themselves over this switch. Looking at the activation force, I knew it all along. They are secret Alps/buckling spring admirers. :twisted:

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 12:22
by 7bit
webwit wrote:I love how the Cherry fanboys are wetting themselves over this switch. Looking at the activation force, I knew it all along. They are secret Alps/buckling spring admirers. :twisted:
:cool:

At least I like ALPS, so if they feel like clicky ALPS, I might like the albino greens as well.

:-)

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 13:04
by attarian
0.5 USD / switch is a little bit high if it's the price you're buying them at. should be around 0.15usd + shipping . At leats that's the price we buy them at most of the time. 0.5 would be the price we sell them in order to get back on our feet ( because there is a minimum order quantity to reach)

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 13:15
by 7bit
attarian wrote:0.5 USD / switch is a little bit high if it's the price you're buying them at. should be around 0.15usd + shipping . At leats that's the price we buy them at most of the time. 0.5 would be the price we sell them in order to get back on our feet ( because there is a minimum order quantity to reach)
:shock:
Do you've got a link?

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 13:17
by attarian
I'm not talking about Mx-Clear. I'm talking in general about Mx-red, blue, etc..

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 13:21
by 7bit
attarian wrote:I'm not talking about Mx-Clear. I'm talking in general about Mx-red, blue, etc..
I pay 0.38 EUR shipped to me, which is around $0.5.

If you have a cheaper source, let me know it!!!
:-)