Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 21:42
Amazing work Snoopy. It's a work of art.. Congrats!
Thanks! I contacted Unicomp today. They are out of stock on the large black spacebars and they do not intend to get any more of them. Unfortunately, the black keycap set for the 101 model M does not include the spacebar. I suppose one could try dying the spacebar, but getting the color to match the other keycaps would be quite difficult.snoopy wrote: ↑I can't tell you that much about the powdercoating. A local company did it. They are specialized on surface finishing. They also removed the old paint. But if you have time, you could also remove it yourself and save some costs.Hypersphere wrote: ↑
Thanks for showing us the great job you have done on your Kishsaver. I hope you won't mind some naive questions:
Could you elaborate a bit on the paint? What is involved in powdercoating?
What find of material did you use for foam, and how thick was it?
Which keycap set did you get from Unicomp? Was it the black blank set for a 101 keyboard?
Finally, what did you use for a spacebar? Did you buy a black one from Unicomp? If so, which size? Or did you paint the spacebar from the Kishsaver? I guess you must have used a Model M spacebar, which is the reason for using a stabilizer from wcass.
Maybe if I can gather all this restoration intelligence, a Kishsaver will fall out of the sky onto my workbench!
I was able to choose between every RAL color and also choose on glossy, matt, or semi-matt
I used 'Moosgummi'. I'm not sure what the correct term for it in english is. Normally children or their parents use it to do arts and crafts. In my first attempt I used 2mm foam. But seemed like that in my case it was too thick, I didn't get that 'sandwich' back together (but monster-toys used it successfully). My second attempt was 1mm Moosgummi, but this was too thin at the rows in the middle and didn't give enough pressure. So I used 2 layers of 1mm foam in the middle and one layer 1mm foam at the edge. Not the perfect solution, but feels good. Maybe a foam that is more fluffy (like the original maybe was 30 years ago) would be perfect.
Short: too thick -> shit; too thin -> also shit;
I purchased a blank black keycapset for the classis 101 model m. It costs the same like when I would have done a special order for the kishsaver. And I have extra keycaps for free.
spacebar is also the one for the 101 model m. With wcass' stabilizer its possible to use it on the F.
You also need that plastic inserts for return, shift and backspace (if you want normal backspace).
Btw, the kish is loud as hell without floss. Much much louder than my normal Ms/SSKs. I can't even watch tv while typing.
Some new feet or that plastic spacers would be awesome. On my second kish those spacers are totally destroyed, not sure what to do there.
Awesome. The only thing I don't like is that skull keycap.
Not for me. I associate vintage stuff with the pre-beige era of black, white, blue and brown. It does look modern, but I think it's the cylindrical blank keycaps that do it. If you had spherical doubleshots on that keyboard, it'd look vintage. (..actually, that's my dream keyboard)madhias wrote: ↑I thought the same when i saw your first pic of the black Kishsaver! Old vintage computer stuff is associated with beige color.
This is very nice too. I can't decide... when I steal a Kishsaver, should I paint it black or leave it metal? Maybe I'll just steal two.sleepy916 wrote: ↑
I think that powdercoating involves heating after application of the powder, so apparently this would be fine for metals but not for plastics.Hypersphere wrote: ↑Thanks! I contacted Unicomp today. They are out of stock on the large black spacebars and they do not intend to get any more of them. Unfortunately, the black keycap set for the 101 model M does not include the spacebar. I suppose one could try dying the spacebar, but getting the color to match the other keycaps would be quite difficult.snoopy wrote: ↑I can't tell you that much about the powdercoating. A local company did it. They are specialized on surface finishing. They also removed the old paint. But if you have time, you could also remove it yourself and save some costs.Hypersphere wrote: ↑
Thanks for showing us the great job you have done on your Kishsaver. I hope you won't mind some naive questions:
Could you elaborate a bit on the paint? What is involved in powdercoating?
What find of material did you use for foam, and how thick was it?
Which keycap set did you get from Unicomp? Was it the black blank set for a 101 keyboard?
Finally, what did you use for a spacebar? Did you buy a black one from Unicomp? If so, which size? Or did you paint the spacebar from the Kishsaver? I guess you must have used a Model M spacebar, which is the reason for using a stabilizer from wcass.
Maybe if I can gather all this restoration intelligence, a Kishsaver will fall out of the sky onto my workbench!
I was able to choose between every RAL color and also choose on glossy, matt, or semi-matt
I used 'Moosgummi'. I'm not sure what the correct term for it in english is. Normally children or their parents use it to do arts and crafts. In my first attempt I used 2mm foam. But seemed like that in my case it was too thick, I didn't get that 'sandwich' back together (but monster-toys used it successfully). My second attempt was 1mm Moosgummi, but this was too thin at the rows in the middle and didn't give enough pressure. So I used 2 layers of 1mm foam in the middle and one layer 1mm foam at the edge. Not the perfect solution, but feels good. Maybe a foam that is more fluffy (like the original maybe was 30 years ago) would be perfect.
Short: too thick -> shit; too thin -> also shit;
I purchased a blank black keycapset for the classis 101 model m. It costs the same like when I would have done a special order for the kishsaver. And I have extra keycaps for free.
spacebar is also the one for the 101 model m. With wcass' stabilizer its possible to use it on the F.
You also need that plastic inserts for return, shift and backspace (if you want normal backspace).
Btw, the kish is loud as hell without floss. Much much louder than my normal Ms/SSKs. I can't even watch tv while typing.
Some new feet or that plastic spacers would be awesome. On my second kish those spacers are totally destroyed, not sure what to do there.
All this is academic anyway until I can find my own Kishsaver!
rindorbrot wrote: ↑My Kishsaver is completed now and working thanks to Hasu's converter code.
I think it would be cool to have a thread were we can show our Kishsavers off, similar to the SSK and Poker threads!
So here is mine:
As you can see I have put on ISO DE keycaps on it and the case is repainted.
After consulting webwit I decided to go with RAL 7030 "Stonegrey", which should be pretty close to IBM's industrial color.
So let's see how your Kishsavers ended looking like!
CPTBadAss wrote: ↑
I would agree with that.Dubsgalore wrote: ↑I will say: that's unique but almost disrespectful
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If someone wants a 7 units black space bar, this thread might be for you:webwit wrote: ↑Finally out of black space bars eh? This increases the value!