
Netbook wanted / found ThinkPad T420s :-)
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No glamour photos? Modelling the new device on the sofa?
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Seems the graphics card makes trouble: white screen of death after logging out from a windowmanager (no matter which).
Does not depend on display manager either (gdm and xdm tested).
Sometimes it works and sometimes not. Same for switchig to text-console ....
Screen resolution is 1024x768. I love that format, it is perfect, I need no more, but it is a 1600x900 display in reality ...

I think both these problems are related. Rumors say I need version 3 kernel. Version 2.6 does not support that shitty peace of Intel hardware ...
Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace does not work: I found out that this is considered a feature, not a bug.

Does not depend on display manager either (gdm and xdm tested).
Sometimes it works and sometimes not. Same for switchig to text-console ....
Screen resolution is 1024x768. I love that format, it is perfect, I need no more, but it is a 1600x900 display in reality ...

I think both these problems are related. Rumors say I need version 3 kernel. Version 2.6 does not support that shitty peace of Intel hardware ...
Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace does not work: I found out that this is considered a feature, not a bug.

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To activate CTRL-ALT-Backspace again you need to set the XkbOption "terminate:ctrl-alt-bksp" in a keyboard section of a xorg.conf.
And why would one use a 2.6 kernel anyway? I still have one running on my server, but on all other systems I'm running Arch with a 3.7.10 kernel. And even a friend of mine who uses Debian (unstable) has a 3.4.35 kernel.
And why would one use a 2.6 kernel anyway? I still have one running on my server, but on all other systems I'm running Arch with a 3.7.10 kernel. And even a friend of mine who uses Debian (unstable) has a 3.4.35 kernel.
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7bit is an ancient guy, he uses ancient things. We all know that!
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He is like microsoft windows.
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OK, updated to kernel 3.2 and rebooted.
No white screen of death so far and I need some pince-nez to be able to read that tiny text.

Here is what I did:
Then I installed linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 and some related stuff.
The only thing missing so far is the virtual scroll-wheel on the right side of the track pad.
No white screen of death so far and I need some pince-nez to be able to read that tiny text.

Here is what I did:
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echo "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
The only thing missing so far is the virtual scroll-wheel on the right side of the track pad.
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I have lost or forgetting the wm you are using but in openbox you have to put:7bit wrote: Then I installed linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 and some related stuff.
The only thing missing so far is the virtual scroll-wheel on the right side of the track pad.
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synclient VertEdgeScroll=1 &
synclient TapButton1=1 &
Probably in xorg.conf you can change that too with zaxismapping maybe, I am not pretty sure.
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I did not came so far. I'm using WindowMaker, but this must go more likely into xorg.conf or something related to X not to a single widow manager.
I plan to use the numpad as scroll wheel in 2 directions (not sure if this is possible) and use the pointing stick for pointer movements.
BTW: Fn delivers a key cose and except for being hardcoded to some function keys and the space bar, it could be used as a regular modifiers key.
Changes to the layout I did already are:
swap of Ctrl and Alt, Windows is Super and Menu is Delete.
Those page buttons left and right of the Up button are Begin and End.
I plan to use the numpad as scroll wheel in 2 directions (not sure if this is possible) and use the pointing stick for pointer movements.
BTW: Fn delivers a key cose and except for being hardcoded to some function keys and the space bar, it could be used as a regular modifiers key.
Changes to the layout I did already are:
swap of Ctrl and Alt, Windows is Super and Menu is Delete.
Those page buttons left and right of the Up button are Begin and End.
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Coool, that is interesting: How did you make menu a delete key?7bit wrote: Changes to the layout I did already are:
swap of Ctrl and Alt, Windows is Super and Menu is Delete.
Those page buttons left and right of the Up button are Begin and End.
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Layout configuration is here:
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc
I make a copy of this
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc_orig
and another
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc_thinkpad
or
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc_122
or ...
Then put a link to the keyboard you use:
ln -s pc_thinkpad ./pc
Then enter the key code which should be produced when the physical Menu button is hit:
Maybe I should post a complete how 2 one day with working examples.
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc
I make a copy of this
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc_orig
and another
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc_thinkpad
or
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc_122
or ...
Then put a link to the keyboard you use:
ln -s pc_thinkpad ./pc
Then enter the key code which should be produced when the physical Menu button is hit:
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key <MENU> { [ Delete ] };
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No, pc is the basic keyboard file. It works with different locales (us, de, uk, ...)pheo wrote:pc stands for some locale? or it is a standard pc keyboard? I mean I have looked into es file and cant find menu key there.
Here is the complete un-altered file:
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// $XKeyboardConfig: xkeyboard-config/symbols/pc,v 1.9 2007-08-29 22:01:48 svu Exp $
//
// $XFree86: xc/programs/xkbcomp/symbols/pc,v 1.9 2003/06/09 19:59:46 dawes Exp $
default partial alphanumeric_keys modifier_keys
xkb_symbols "pc105" {
key <ESC> { [ Escape ] };
// the extra key on most European keyboards
key <LSGT> { [ less, greater, bar, brokenbar ] };
// these keys are common to all layouts
key <BKSL> { [ backslash, bar ] };
key <SPCE> { [ space ] };
include "pc(function)"
include "pc(editing)"
include "keypad(x11)"
key <BKSP> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ BackSpace, Terminate_Server ]
};
key <TAB> { [ Tab, ISO_Left_Tab ] };
key <RTRN> { [ Return ] };
key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
key <NMLK> { [ Num_Lock, Pointer_EnableKeys ] };
key <LFSH> { [ Shift_L ] };
key <LCTL> { [ Control_L ] };
key <LWIN> { [ Super_L ] };
key <RTSH> { [ Shift_R ] };
key <RCTL> { [ Control_R ] };
key <RWIN> { [ Super_R ] };
key <MENU> { [ Menu ] };
// begin modifier mappings
modifier_map Shift { Shift_L, Shift_R };
modifier_map Lock { Caps_Lock, ISO_Lock };
modifier_map Control{ Control_L, Control_R };
modifier_map Mod2 { Num_Lock };
// Fake keys for virtual<->real modifiers mapping
key <LVL3> { [ ISO_Level3_Shift ] };
key <MDSW> { [ Mode_switch ] };
modifier_map Mod5 { <LVL3>, <MDSW> };
key <ALT> { [ NoSymbol, Alt_L ] };
include "altwin(meta_alt)"
key <META> { [ NoSymbol, Meta_L ] };
modifier_map Mod1 { <META> };
key <SUPR> { [ NoSymbol, Super_L ] };
modifier_map Mod4 { <SUPR> };
key <HYPR> { [ NoSymbol, Hyper_L ] };
modifier_map Mod4 { <HYPR> };
key <OUTP> { [ XF86Display ] };
key <KITG> { [ XF86KbdLightOnOff ] };
key <KIDN> { [ XF86KbdBrightnessDown ] };
key <KIUP> { [ XF86KbdBrightnessUp ] };
};
partial hidden alphanumeric_keys
xkb_symbols "function" {
key <FK01> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F1, XF86_Switch_VT_1 ]
};
key <FK02> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F2, XF86_Switch_VT_2 ]
};
key <FK03> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F3, XF86_Switch_VT_3 ]
};
key <FK04> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F4, XF86_Switch_VT_4 ]
};
key <FK05> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F5, XF86_Switch_VT_5 ]
};
key <FK06> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F6, XF86_Switch_VT_6 ]
};
key <FK07> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F7, XF86_Switch_VT_7 ]
};
key <FK08> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F8, XF86_Switch_VT_8 ]
};
key <FK09> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F9, XF86_Switch_VT_9 ]
};
key <FK10> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F10, XF86_Switch_VT_10 ]
};
key <FK11> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F11, XF86_Switch_VT_11 ]
};
key <FK12> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ F12, XF86_Switch_VT_12 ]
};
};
partial hidden alphanumeric_keys
xkb_symbols "editing" {
key <PRSC> {
type= "PC_ALT_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Print, Sys_Req ]
};
key <SCLK> { [ Scroll_Lock ] };
key <PAUS> {
type= "PC_CONTROL_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Pause, Break ]
};
key <INS> { [ Insert ] };
key <HOME> { [ Home ] };
key <PGUP> { [ Prior ] };
key <DELE> { [ Delete ] };
key <END> { [ End ] };
key <PGDN> { [ Next ] };
key <UP> { [ Up ] };
key <LEFT> { [ Left ] };
key <DOWN> { [ Down ] };
key <RGHT> { [ Right ] };
};
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// $XKeyboardConfig: xkeyboard-config/symbols/pc,v 1.9 2007-08-29 22:01:48 svu Exp $
//
// $XFree86: xc/programs/xkbcomp/symbols/pc,v 1.9 2003/06/09 19:59:46 dawes Exp $
// modified by 7bit 2009 / 2010 from original pc
// this map is intended for G80-2550 122-key Keyboards.
// run 'setxkbmap us' to activate
// to look up key keycodes see:
// /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86
default partial alphanumeric_keys modifier_keys
xkb_symbols "pc105" {
key <I75> { [ Escape ] };
// these keys are common to all layouts
key <BKSL> { [ backslash, bar ] };
key <SPCE> { [ space ] };
include "pc(function)"
include "pc(editing)"
include "keypad(x11)"
key <BKSP> {
type="CTRL+ALT",
symbols[Group1]= [ BackSpace, Terminate_Server ]
};
key <TAB> { [ Tab, ISO_Left_Tab ] };
key <RTRN> { [ Return ] };
key <FK12> { [ Num_Lock, Pointer_EnableKeys ] };
key <K6A> { [ Linefeed ] };
key <I12> { [ Insert, Insert ] };
key <TLDE> { [ colon, asciitilde ] };
// keypad:
key <ESC> { [ asciitilde, asciicircum ] };
key <SCLK> { [ KP_Divide, KP_Divide ] };
key <KPDV> { [ KP_Subtract, KP_Subtract ] };
key <KPSU> { [ ampersand, ampersand ] };
key <KPEN> { [ KP_Enter, KP_Enter ] };
// 2x6 extra keys:
key <I3C> { [ parenleft, parenleft ] };
key <PGUP> { [ parenright, parenright ] };
key <PGDN> { [ Home, numbersign ] };
key <END> { [ braceleft, braceleft ] };
key <INS> { [ braceright, braceright ] };
key <DELE> { [ End, colon ] };
// cursor keys:
key <DOWN> { [ Delete ] };
// L1 to L10:
// CUT, PASTE
key <I06> { [ SunCut ] };
key <K76> { [ SunPaste ] };
// MARK, UNDO
key <I07> { [ SunF36 ] };
key <PAUS> { [ SunUndo ] };
// SELECT, COMPOSE
key <I0C> { [ osfSelect, osfSelectAll ] };
key <I78> { [ Multi_key ] };
key <K65> { [ Prior ] };
key <FK17> { [ Next ] };
// Modifier keys:
key <LFSH> { [ Shift_L ] };
key <RTSH> { [ Shift_R ] };
key <LALT> { [ Control_L ] };
key <RALT> { [ Control_R ] }; // mapped to H-C in emacs
key <PRSC> { [ Meta_L ] };
key <K64> { [ Alt_L ] };
key <LCTL> { [ Super_L ] };
key <RCTL> { [ Super_R ] }; // mapped to H-s in emacs
key <CAPS> { [ Hyper_L ] };
key <LSGT> { [ Hyper_R ] }; // mapped to A-s in emacs
key <FK10> { [ Alt_R ] }; // mapped to H-A in emacs
//key <RCTL> { [ Alt_R ] }; // mapped to H-A in emacs
// begin modifier mappings
modifier_map Shift { Shift_L, Shift_R };
modifier_map Lock { Caps_Lock, ISO_Lock };
modifier_map Control{ Control_L, Control_R };
// Fake keys for virtual<->real modifiers mapping
key <LVL3> { [ ISO_Level3_Shift ] };
key <MDSW> { [ Mode_switch ] };
// modifier_map Mod5 { <LVL3>, <MDSW> };
modifier_map Mod2 { Num_Lock };
// no Scroll_Lock, Mod3 is needed for Hyper
key <ALT> { [ NoSymbol, Alt_L ] };
modifier_map Mod1 { <ALT> };
key <HYPR> { [ NoSymbol, Hyper_L ] };
modifier_map Mod3 { <HYPR> };
key <SUPR> { [ NoSymbol, Super_L ] };
modifier_map Mod4 { <SUPR> };
key <META> { [ NoSymbol, Meta_L ] };
modifier_map Mod5 { <META> };
key <OUTP> { [ XF86Display ] };
key <KITG> { [ XF86KbdLightOnOff ] };
key <KIDN> { [ XF86KbdBrightnessDown ] };
key <KIUP> { [ XF86KbdBrightnessUp ] };
};
partial hidden alphanumeric_keys
xkb_symbols "function" {
key <FK01> { // see '/usr/share/X11/xkb/types/pc' for info
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F1, F9, XF86_Switch_VT_1, XF86_Switch_VT_9]
};
key <FK02> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F2, F10, XF86_Switch_VT_2, XF86_Switch_VT_10]
};
key <FK03> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F3, F11, XF86_Switch_VT_3, XF86_Switch_VT_11]
};
key <FK04> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F4, F12, XF86_Switch_VT_4, XF86_Switch_VT_12]
};
key <FK05> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F5, F13, XF86_Switch_VT_5, XF86_Switch_VT_13]
};
key <FK06> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F6, F14, XF86_Switch_VT_6, XF86_Switch_VT_14]
};
key <FK07> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F7, F15, XF86_Switch_VT_7, XF86_Switch_VT_15]
};
key <FK08> {
type="MY_FK",
symbols[Group1]= [ F8, F16, XF86_Switch_VT_8, XF86_Switch_VT_16]
};
};
partial hidden alphanumeric_keys
xkb_symbols "editing" {
key <PRSC> {
type= "PC_ALT_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Print, Sys_Req ]
};
// key <PAUS> {
// type= "PC_CONTROL_LEVEL2",
// symbols[Group1]= [ Pause, Break ]
// };
key <UP> {
type= "PC_ALT_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Up, XF86_Switch_VT_1 ]
};
key <HOME> {
type= "PC_ALT_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Down, XF86_Switch_VT_2 ]
};
key <LEFT> {
type= "PC_ALT_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Left, XF86_Switch_VT_6 ]
};
key <RGHT> {
type= "PC_ALT_LEVEL2",
symbols[Group1]= [ Right, XF86_Switch_VT_1 ]
};
};
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type "MY_LEVEL" {
modifiers = Shift+Control+Alt;
map[None] = Level1;
map[Shift] = Level2;
map[Control] = Level3;
map[Alt] = Level4;
map[Control+Alt] = Level5;
level_name[Level1] = "Base"; // 1st
level_name[Level2] = "Shift"; // 2nd
level_name[Level3] = "Control"; // 3rd
level_name[Level4] = "Alt"; // 4th
level_name[Level5] = "Control Alt"; // 5th
};
type "MY_FK" {
modifiers = Shift+Control+Alt;
map[None] = Level1;
map[Shift] = Level2;
map[Control+Alt] = Level3;
map[Shift+Control+Alt] = Level4;
level_name[Level1] = "Base";
level_name[Level2] = "Shift";
level_name[Level3] = "Control Alt";
level_name[Level4] = "Shift Control Alt";
};
- 7bit
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- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
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You need to run
setxkbmap us
or whatever to make things taking effect. I would wonder if it worked out of the box.
ps: Delete exists only as 1.5 units key.
setxkbmap us
or whatever to make things taking effect. I would wonder if it worked out of the box.
ps: Delete exists only as 1.5 units key.
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- Main keyboard: Filco MJ2 TKL w/Blues
- Main mouse: Logitech G5
- Favorite switch: I love the sound of blues in the morning
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Edit: I have changed Caps_lock for Control leftpheo wrote:OK I got it. Now I have my closer del key running. Thank you very much. Now I would like a 1.25 del keycap
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key <CAPS> { [ Control_L ] };
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KeyRelease event, serial 46, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001,
root 0x37a, subw 0x0, time 629729, (4,49), root:(1189,365),
state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 37
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False
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KeyRelease event, serial 46, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001,
root 0x37a, subw 0x0, time 629729, (4,49), root:(1189,365),
state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 37
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False
- pheo
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- Main keyboard: Filco MJ2 TKL w/Blues
- Main mouse: Logitech G5
- Favorite switch: I love the sound of blues in the morning
- DT Pro Member: -
Sorry I edit real contro left.pheo wrote:Edit: I have changed Caps_lock for Control leftpheo wrote:OK I got it. Now I have my closer del key running. Thank you very much. Now I would like a 1.25 del keycapI have selected with setxkbmap. And now caps lock doesnt turn on, obviusly, but doesnt make control function. xev detectes keypress as control_left:Code: Select all
key <CAPS> { [ Control_L ] };
This is left controlCode: Select all
KeyRelease event, serial 46, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x37a, subw 0x0, time 629729, (4,49), root:(1189,365), state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 37 XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False
Do you know what can be happening?Code: Select all
KeyRelease event, serial 46, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x37a, subw 0x4400002, time 679104, (64,56), root:(1249,372), state 0x4, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False
- 7bit
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- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
I also changed us:
diff /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us_orig
14c14
< // key <TLDE> { [ grave, asciitilde ] };
---
> key <TLDE> { [ grave, asciitilde ] };
50c50
< key <AC10> { [ semicolon, grave ] };
---
> key <AC10> { [ semicolon, colon ] };
65c65
< // key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
---
> key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
You can ignore most except for
key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
This must be out-commented. I don't know why it is there.
Such thing should go into pc not into the locale specific layout files.
diff /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us_orig
14c14
< // key <TLDE> { [ grave, asciitilde ] };
---
> key <TLDE> { [ grave, asciitilde ] };
50c50
< key <AC10> { [ semicolon, grave ] };
---
> key <AC10> { [ semicolon, colon ] };
65c65
< // key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
---
> key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
You can ignore most except for
key <CAPS> { [ Caps_Lock ] };
This must be out-commented. I don't know why it is there.
Such thing should go into pc not into the locale specific layout files.