Otho-linear Keyboards?

[bebuxe]

Looking to buy a Otho-linear/matrix.grid Keyboard.

So far I found the this one to the only I would want to buy, and Hack:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0903737534
from typematrix.com (2020)

2030 sucks because of ATL and other key positions. Above all PS/2. I just bought the converter from clickykeyboards.com (well documented manual, and nice CC permisions)

what do you think?

PS
before I jump the gun here. And please, no crayola. There is no []{}, F# Page_down Page_up, and above all Scroll_lock. I shall use this in *nix OSes.

[Icarium]

I have only heard bad things about the typematrix so far. Most people agree that it doesn't make sense to have a layout with parallel key columns if the two sides aren't decently far apart.

[bebuxe]

I agree with that. But I also prefer all the keys to be the 1.7cmx1.7cm.

If no ideas, I am buying later tonight.

[Icarium]

How about a Tipro or Access-IS board?

[7bit]

Any keyboard will do, but it must have Cherry switches!

Buy key caps here:
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ ... t1376.html

[pyro]

Or a uTron or Truly Ergonomic?

[bebuxe]

Thanks everyone. I jumped the gun. But the μTRON looked like like an alternative I did NOT want to try. And at 570USD No way.
The custom keyboards, sound nice, but I am not rich yet, and do not have the time to design it, and tell them the details.
Truly Ergonomic, nah. The keys rise, and it is anything but ortholinear. But good input.

[quanticle]

What kind of switch does that uTron keyboard have? It looks a bit like Topre, but I can't be sure.

[webwit]

Topre 45g. They look a bit different, but that's to allow a smaller key distance. It does make them more wobbly. The advantage is all keys can be reached with finger movement only, no hand movement.

[002]

I guess they use the same plunger that's found in the left 'Ctrl' key on an 87U (to give space for the LED window) - which would explain the wobbliness. Cool - I didn't know that's how the μTRON got it's 17mm key pitch. I doubt it's as exaggerated as it is on the Realforce's control key though

Out of curiosity do you know if they use the normal Topre switch for the larger keys on the μTRON, webwit?

[Kurk]

I have only heard bad things about the typematrix so far. Most people agree that it doesn't make sense to have a layout with parallel key columns if the two sides aren't decently far apart.

I have to step in and defend the typematrix 2030, at least the original layout.
First off, I agree that the Alt key could have been in a better position, i.e. closer to the space bar. BTW, the current 2030 has it that way. Also, the right shift is indeed a bit further a reach than on ordinary keyboards but I can perfectly cope with that, and I do find it more comfortable than the right shift on an ordinary staggered layout. Biggest drawback: no mechanic switches but fairly decent scissor switches.
On the plus side:
-Parallel columns. Rules whether or not you have a large hand separation.
-Hand separation is still better than on ordinary keyboards.
-CapsLk has been defanged.
-Quite useful Fn+cut/copy/paste cluster, esp. when typing non-qwerty. I use it all the times.
-Integrated numpad that makes sense.
-Return key in reach of both hands.
-Superb arrow/pgup/pgdn/home/end/enter cluster. Unfortunately, this has been split in the current version of the 2030.

For your reference, here's the TypeMatrix 2030 in its original layout (Dvorak):