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Hmm. Is the moulding there to make all the plastic we need for a full PBT DSA or SA set? Because there's always the simple option: blanks. I am not against them!

Wonder if I can draw Helvetica…

yes molding is fine, we just miss the printing heads

Perhaps there's hope after all. I'd love a nice set of spherical PBT blanks.

How do DSA and SA compare on availability of PBT moulds?

we miss too many keys in SA PBT

Got a quick list? I'm thinking of custom layouts more than just compatibility with off-the-shelf keyboards.

Muirium wrote:Got a quick list? I'm thinking of custom layouts more than just compatibility with off-the-shelf keyboards.

I'm with you on that but we have to reach high tiers to get a nice price. 80% of sales are standard TKL.

I assumed that high volumes were needed mostly because of legends. With blanks (and a single profile) all 1.25 keys are identical, while with doubleshot you need to make separate Alt, Ctrl etc. etc. caps which all need volume. Dyesub is somewhere in between I suppose. The caps start as blanks but then need specific dyeing.

by standard TKL I mean printed TKL (not-blank). The good part is that printed caps help to bring the blanks cost down in dye-sub (as you said)

Muirium wrote:I assumed that high volumes were needed mostly because of legends. With blanks (and a single profile) all 1.25 keys are identical, while with doubleshot you need to make separate Alt, Ctrl etc. etc. caps which all need volume. Dyesub is somewhere in between I suppose. The caps start as blanks but then need specific dyeing.

The pill is hard to swallow… (I don't know if this expression is correct in English)
As you said, their heating heads are more flexible than DoubleS mould so they can be quickly made profitable. And what kind of company make pay the high price to a client for their replacement parts instead of having a dedicated budget previously made and recuperated progressively with future orders ?? They know KB enthousiasts, it wont be the last GB in dyesub pbt SA or DSA.

Matteo > Did you investigate to know why this crazy fee doesn't happened with the Sindarin set?

Vierax wrote:Matteo > Did you investigate to know why this crazy fee doesn't happened with the Sindarin set?

SP is a smaller company than it may seem. they simply make silly mistakes.

I had a lengthy discussion with SP... this might be still feasible. Let them refine the spacebars first and then I'll see if we can waive that $6000 fee.

A spherical dyesub PBT set complete with PBT space bar… good luck with negotiations! There's a job for you at the United Nations if you can pull this one off.

fingers crossed

Muirium wrote:A spherical dyesub PBT set complete with PBT space bar… good luck with negotiations! There's a job for you at the United Nations if you can pull this one off.

....plus nomination for nobel prize in economics AND peace!

Any news on this?
I think we could go with DCS too. truly retro set of beige and white caps should be nice, even on DCS.. me thinks...

SP is working on the PBT spacebar. As soon as it is ready we will start this GB.

(And once our wallets have recovered from Round 5…)

don't worry, it's a long way to go.

matt3o wrote:SP is working on the PBT spacebar. As soon as it is ready we will start this GB.

Cool. Would it be DSA or DCS PBT?
What colors will we go with? Those retro black on white/beige?

probably DSA PBT white/beige

matt3o wrote:don't worry, it's a long way to go.

Can you give me a guess which month this might start?

If it's spherical: I want it.

DSA has a rougher texture than SA, if I understand SP's charts correctly. That should be quite something with hard wearing PBT!

matt3o wrote:probably DSA PBT white/beige

Sweet... can't wait already:)

BlueBär wrote:

matt3o wrote:don't worry, it's a long way to go.

Can you give me a guess which month this might start?

very hard to say. I hope Q1 2014.

Hi, I am also interested

BTW I would say Gotham Rounded remind lot of the fonts of those times (ALL CAPS):
http://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham- ... haracters/
http://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham- ... /overview/

Internet wrote:Hi, I am also interested

BTW I would say Gotham Rounded remind lot of the fonts of those times (ALL CAPS):
http://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham- ... haracters/
http://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham- ... /overview/

very nice but we are pretty much bound to open source fonts

fasten your seat belts... this could start really soon.

PBT
DSA
Dye-sub

Mmm!

Excellent! I was starting to get worried...

next week we should have the spacebar... now I need to know if we can waive the $6000 setup fee