deskthority

At this point, there's only 34 switches in my count, so unless things step up, it just won't be worth your money or my effort to do a group buy.

Onlinecomponents currently has 35 units of MX1A-31NN at 11USD each, shipping works out to 7USD for anything under 20 switches. http://www.onlinecomponents.com/cherry- ... p=11075424

BiNiaRiS wrote:fyi:
http://www.neworldit.com/ProductDetails ... =MX1A-31NW

I just called them and the guy said 250 is the MOQ and $1.44 is the correct price per switch but they are available for order.

I don't understand why buying them at 10.50 is on the table when that link is clearly selling them a lot cheaper. At 34 switches that would be 357 total, only three dollars short of the price of minimum order quantity for 250*1.44 which is 360.

ped wrote:

BiNiaRiS wrote:fyi:
http://www.neworldit.com/ProductDetails ... =MX1A-31NW

I just called them and the guy said 250 is the MOQ and $1.44 is the correct price per switch but they are available for order.

I don't understand why buying them at 10.50 is on the table when that link is clearly selling them a lot cheaper. At 34 switches that would be 357 total, only three dollars short of the price of minimum order quantity for 250*1.44 which is 360.

no worries. feel free to setup your own MO, this one doesn't have any legs at this point.

harrison wrote: no worries. feel free to setup your own MO, this one doesn't have any legs at this point.

Well, umm, I would but I'm not in the USA so shipping to me is $170 or so, which is stupidly high. It'd be much better if someone in the USA would organize it. Also, there's probably more interest in the USA so it wouldn't make sense to ship it to Europe and then back to the USA.

I mean, if you had 34 units, that'd be at least 35 units with me. So that's $367.5, plus shipping to somewhere in the USA which would be ~$30. So ~$400 shipped... So each unit would cost 400/35 = 11.43 + shipping. Each unit from the 34(+me) you've gathered interest from would be worth 7.14 new units from the 250. I'm betting more people would be interested in a much lower price as well, so maybe we'd be able to gather more orders. Earlier in the thread people said they'd buy 40 if they were $2, that site makes them even cheaper than $2.

Actually, were you looking for PCB mount? The thread title is misleading I guess, since we want plate mount, MX1A-31NN, not MX1A-31NW. That's what that website is selling for what would be dirt cheap. Sad face.

Stupid me. I got confused because of the fact that you were giving us links to MX1A31NN on online components. The relevant (stem/spring/upper housing) part of the switch can still be transplanted to the lower housing of a plate mounted switch, right?

ped wrote:Actually, were you looking for PCB mount? The thread title is misleading I guess, since we want plate mount, MX1A-31NN, not MX1A-31NW. That's what that website is selling for what would be dirt cheap. Sad face.

Stupid me. I got confused because of the fact that you were giving us links to MX1A31NN on online components. The relevant (stem/spring/upper housing) part of the switch can still be transplanted to the lower housing of a plate mounted switch, right?

which one we get is largely irrelevant, most of us are using plate mount boards and would just be clipping the legs off anyhow if we ordered PCB mount switches. when i ran my initial interest check, I was only able to find 3 vendors with stock of either switch, and the one i've been communicating with was the only one that offered something less than 10/switch. now that the interest dropped below 100 switches, the price ramped up again.

frankly, it doesn't seem like the interest is high enough to warrant a group buy unless the person organizing it is ordering a quantity to begin with. if someone else wants to pick this up with another vendor, power to them. i would agree that in light of the pricing mentioned above, it doesn't make sense to move forward with this one.

Well, at 1.44 a piece I'd even order 40 or them myself... I'm sure there's others who would buy large-ish amounts too at that price.

Re Teensy (or custom USB controller in general),

USB HID Usage Tables v1.12 wrote:
57 Keyboard Caps Lock¹¹
71 Keyboard Scroll Lock¹¹
83 Keyboard Num Lock and Clear¹¹
…
130 Keyboard Locking Caps Lock¹²
131 Keyboard Locking Num Lock¹²
132 Keyboard Locking Scroll Lock¹²
…

¹¹ Implemented as a non-locking key; sent as member of an array.
¹² Implemented as a locking key; sent as a toggle button. Available for legacy support; however, most systems should use the non-locking version of this key.

So it shouldn't be a big problem on the controller side.

Finding out if it works right on the keyboard driver side should be a half-hour experiment at most, if you've already got a Teensy and the OS at hand.

(And if it doesn't work smoothly there, it's still possible to make the controller simulate a "normal" lock-key from it.)

harrison wrote:At this point, there's only 34 switches in my count

Out of curiosity, how many of the 34 would be bound for which continent?

hemflit wrote:

harrison wrote:At this point, there's only 34 switches in my count

Out of curiosity, how many of the 34 would be bound for which continent?

Only 10 of the 34 were within the US, 7bit accounted for another 10 (although I believe his interest is much higher, price was a limiting factor). The remainder were spread between England, Germany, Sweden, France, etc.

Ok, so I tried to order a handful from that cheap neworldit site from upthread, just to see if it would work. Because their website let me do it in increments of 1, not 250. I expected to get an "oops, website blooper, actually we sell in units of 250".

Instead, I got:
"Unfortunately your order cannot be processed at this time, due to no more stock. This order will be canceled and your credit card will not be charged."

I suppose we can forget about that source, at least for a while.

hemflit wrote:Ok, so I tried to order a handful from that cheap neworldit site from upthread, just to see if it would work. Because their website let me do it in increments of 1, not 250. I expected to get an "oops, website blooper, actually we sell in units of 250".

Instead, I got:
"Unfortunately your order cannot be processed at this time, due to no more stock. This order will be canceled and your credit card will not be charged."

I suppose we can forget about that source, at least for a while.

I actually called as spoke with someone and he said the order won't go through unless you order at least 250

Oh, ok. Gosh, that was pretty bad business on their part, to tell me "can't do this" instead of "can't do this, but would you like 250 instead"

OK, my source can deliver both variants:

MX1A-31NN
and
MX1A-31NW

Price will be the same as blacks or cheaper if I get more orders.

Does anybody know if these have the same under-shell as regular switches, so we can just order one sort?

Also, There is no limit anymore for MXDARKGREY, because they can deliver it as well.

I will order in a few days, based on what orders I've got.

Order-IDs are

MXLOCK
and
MXLOCKPCB

Doesn't look like it. Need room for the gear mechanism.

Thanks.

So we will order the PCB version and if someone needs them for PCB it can be converted.

7bit wrote:Thanks.

So we will order the PCB version and if someone needs them for PCB it can be converted.

You mean if someone needs them for plate?

So there's no difference between ordering MXLOCK and MXLOCKPCB, we'll get MXLOCKPCB either way, correct?

Kisakuku wrote:

7bit wrote:Thanks.

So we will order the PCB version and if someone needs them for PCB it can be converted.

You mean if someone needs them for plate?

So there's no difference between ordering MXLOCK and MXLOCKPCB, we'll get MXLOCKPCB either way, correct?

If the under-shell is the same: MXLOCK
else: MXLOCKPCB

I don't think there will be around 1000 orders for both versions.

ripster wrote:Doesn't look like it. Need room for the gear mechanism.

correct. i just pulled mine apart, and they are not interchangeable.

harrison wrote:

ripster wrote:Doesn't look like it. Need room for the gear mechanism.

correct. i just pulled mine apart, and they are not interchangeable.

OK, then I will order the NW version.

Nice on guys wanted some of the locking switches

Just for clarity, I send my order to phantom and the only locking switch we're getting now is MX1A-31NW which is ordered using code MXLOCKPCB?

dirge wrote:Nice on guys wanted some of the locking switches

Just for clarity, I send my order to phantom and the only locking switch we're getting now is MX1A-31NW which is ordered using code MXLOCKPCB?

MXLOCK and MXLOCKPCB will be the same MX1A-31NW.

If you don't want the 2 extra pins, just cut them away and you get the MX1A-31NN.

Awesome, updated my order for scroll-lock phantom fun

and some whites to play with

7bit wrote:

dirge wrote:Nice on guys wanted some of the locking switches

Just for clarity, I send my order to phantom and the only locking switch we're getting now is MX1A-31NW which is ordered using code MXLOCKPCB?

MXLOCK and MXLOCKPCB will be the same MX1A-31NW.

If you don't want the 2 extra pins, just cut them away and you get the MX1A-31NN.

Do we have to update our order or you will just count MXLOCK as MXLOCKPCB?

7bit wrote:MXLOCK and MXLOCKPCB will be the same MX1A-31NW.

If you don't want the 2 extra pins, just cut them away and you get the MX1A-31NN.

Good call, it's not like anyone will put 105 of latching switches in a keyboard! Cutting pins in 1-2 switches is easy and only takes a minute. Definitely good idea to go with the PCB mount version ifyou have to choose one type.

xbb wrote:

7bit wrote:

dirge wrote:Nice on guys wanted some of the locking switches

Just for clarity, I send my order to phantom and the only locking switch we're getting now is MX1A-31NW which is ordered using code MXLOCKPCB?

MXLOCK and MXLOCKPCB will be the same MX1A-31NW.

If you don't want the 2 extra pins, just cut them away and you get the MX1A-31NN.

Do we have to update our order or you will just count MXLOCK as MXLOCKPCB?

Both are the same. In the end I will sum them up and call it MXLOCK.

So where do I place my order if I'm interested in buying some of these. I would be interested in 10.

jessecoleman wrote:So where do I place my order if I'm interested in buying some of these. I would be interested in 10.

Send a message to Phantom with the following content:
MXLOCK 10
your e-mail address
ADDRESS
your shipping address

So I've sent the message and sent the paypal payment. But after that I got the invoice email a second time. I haven't gotten any confirmation yet that he received my payment. What should I do?