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Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 20:27
by wlhlm
Thanks! :)

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 21:00
by derzemel
TRS-80 Model I (no idea what this thing is but, it's in box :P)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/SELTEN-RADIO-SHA ... 1845697922

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 21:16
by Muirium
Think that was the Trash 80 I used as my first computer as a kid (when it was already donkey's years old). Horrible computer! The Vic=20 was such an upgrade! As for the keyboard, meanwhile, well I assume random ass linear with doubleshot sphericals. Maybe waffle frame what's names?

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stackpole_switch_grid

Just a wild guess though.

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 21:41
by derzemel
Muirium wrote: Think that was the Trash 80 I used as my first computer as a kid
Speaking of first computers used as a kid. Here in Romania, one of the major industries in the later communist years was developing and building computers (called Felix) with licences and collaborations from all over the place (FRIDEN, CII, AMPEX, PERTEC, DATA PRODUCTS, CENTRONICS, IBM, ADVANTECH, SUN etc). The first computer I have ever played on was in a factory, in my dad's office and I remember it had a keyboard very similar to these ones (the ads are from a local Romanian classifieds site):

Hall keyboard (10 Eur):
http://www.okazii.ro/periferice-multime ... a165610780

Maybe Hall again, this time with all keycaps (12.5 Eur):
http://www.okazii.ro/periferice-multime ... a169835960

Anyway, I have been playing with the idea of getting them out of sheer curiosity and to see if the feeling of them brings something to memory. Still undecided though :P

Edit: corrected the links

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 22:03
by mr_a500
Muirium wrote: As for the keyboard, meanwhile, well I assume random ass linear with doubleshot sphericals. Maybe waffle frame what's names?

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stackpole_switch_grid

Just a wild guess though.
Wrong. You obviously didn't see this thread: http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/int ... t9529.html

It's cream ALPS SKCC ("vintage T"). The listed keyboard is obviously yellowed.

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 22:10
by Muirium
Correct! My only reminiscence about the Trash 80 is that I wish my old man had got a Mac instead. That must have already been the mid 1980s. Our first remotely useful home computer was still years away.


@Derzemel: Ooh, nice stuff. The first one looks tasty indeed in this shot:

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I wonder how much of my taste in keyboards is affected by my personal computing past as well.

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 22:15
by mr_a500
Muirium wrote: Correct! My only reminiscence about the Trash 80 is that I wish my old man had got a Mac instead. That must have already been the mid 1980s. Our first remotely useful home computer was still years away.
I have similar reminiscence about my "Trash 80", the Colour Computer II. I wish I had an Atari 800XL instead.
(oh well, now I have 5 of them)

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 09:48
by derzemel
Soooo... this (+ other stuff) is for sale on Kleinanzeigen in Germany, for 150Eur:

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Link:
http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s ... 5-225-2055

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 09:59
by seebart
That seller has had most of that for sale before. That second one from the top is Micro Switch. I think Nuum wanted that a some point . I've written him a message now with an offer. If he's reasonable I'll buy those if no one else takes them before me. There is an Olivetti on the left too. The keycaps on those should be really nice.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 10:02
by derzemel
seebart wrote: There is an Olivetti on the left too. The keycaps on those should be really nice.
If I am not mistaken, that Olivetti is an ANK 25-101, which, according to the Wiki, is a rubber dome (a good one though)

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 10:04
by seebart
derzemel wrote:
seebart wrote: There is an Olivetti on the left too. The keycaps on those should be really nice.
If I am not mistaken, that Olivetti is an ANK 25-101, which, according to the Wiki, is a rubber dome (a good one though)
Yes that is correct. Forget the junk in the middle. Want to do a mini group buy derzemel? Anyone want to get in on this? It might be gone already.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 10:14
by derzemel
seebart wrote: Want to do a mini group buy derzemel?
No, thank you!
They are very nice and interesting, but not really my cup of tea (I don't have the space for them anyway :lol:)

Edit: I am more into Cherry and IBM

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 10:15
by seebart
That's cool I understand. I'm one of the few stupid people here who want old stuff like that.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 11:34
by Muirium
Old isn't the problem. (Compare with demand for beamspring vs. Model F and Model M.)

Bad is the problem! Aren't a lot of the vintage switch types out there quite poor? Caps had already achieved amazing standards compared to today, but switches blossomed a bit later, besides for IBM.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 12:41
by seebart
Muirium wrote: Old isn't the problem. (Compare with demand for beamspring vs. Model F and Model M.)

Bad is the problem! Aren't a lot of the vintage switch types out there quite poor? Caps had already achieved amazing standards compared to today, but switches blossomed a bit later, besides for IBM.
Depends what you consider "poor". I'd still say that one of my favorite switches are those linear green stems in my Micro Switch from 1976. Cherry MX feels like crap compared to that. IBM Capacitive is still the gold standard for me. Sure, those strange unmarked Clare Pendars in that old kit keyboard of mine don't feel that great. So yes there are "poor" old ones. But there are pure gold old ones also. Anyway I bought that lot so we'll see. There is one Micro Switch in that lot. No idea what the rest is. I'm pretty sure some of those keycaps will be very nice.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 12:43
by Muirium
That's the spirit.

All I mean is that I never turned my nose up at a keyboard because it was too old. Too unknown and uncertain? Sure. I can't stand waffle frame boards for instance. But too old? Bring it on!

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 12:50
by seebart
Muirium wrote: That's the spirit.

All I mean is that I never turned my nose up at a keyboard because it was too old. Too unknown and uncertain? Sure. I can't stand waffle frame boards for instance. But too old? Bring it on!
I know we're on the same page on this, eventhough you're a Topre snob. :mrgreen:

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 12:52
by Muirium
You say snob like its a bad thing. I grin, condescendingly.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 13:01
by seebart
Muirium wrote: You say snob like its a bad thing. I grin, condescendingly.
It's a fun thing to me, not a bad thing. Not to be taken too seriously either. The truth is I would love to be a Beamspring snob, but I can't get no satisfaction in that way since it's unobtanium. And then Cindy's bad news. :cry:

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 13:26
by kbdfr
I agree with both of you (except, of course, for anything related to Topre or IBM).

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 13:34
by Muirium
Absolutely. We can all agree on cheese.

Don't worry, Seebart. My QWERTZ 3276 still has your name on it. But half its caps are in Matteo's care right now, headed for China!

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 13:46
by seebart
Muirium wrote: Absolutely. We can all agree on cheese.

Don't worry, Seebart. My QWERTZ 3276 still has your name on it. But half its caps are in Matteo's care right now, headed for China!
That's good to hear (again). Eventhough I never partake in those GB's I know Matteo's work is important. I buy the original vintage caps instead.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 13:51
by Muirium
Beamspring profile caps on Topre. Ohhhhhhh yeeeeeah.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 14:14
by derzemel
Cherry MX 6.0 for 140Eur (only one image, but from the official release):

http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s ... 6-225-9669

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 14:22
by hypkx
I don't trust sellers who use stock Pictures from the internet.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 14:25
by derzemel
hypkx wrote: I don't trust sellers who use stock Pictures from the internet.
Me neither, but this was too unexpected (the MX 6.0 should come out in the next weeks for a higher price than this)

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 14:35
by seebart
hypkx wrote: I don't trust sellers who use stock Pictures from the internet.
Valid point. Bad sales strategy. Either they're too lazy or got something to hide.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 15:20
by Blaise170
seebart wrote:
hypkx wrote: I don't trust sellers who use stock Pictures from the internet.
Valid point. Bad sales strategy. Either they're too lazy or got something to hide.
Not necessarily. I will sometimes include stock photos so that the buyer knows exactly what they are bidding on. Many buyers think the description is for chumps apparently. :x

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 15:22
by seebart
Blaise170 wrote:
seebart wrote:
hypkx wrote: I don't trust sellers who use stock Pictures from the internet.
Valid point. Bad sales strategy. Either they're too lazy or got something to hide.
Not necessarily. I will sometimes include stock photos so that the buyer knows exactly what they are bidding on. Many buyers think the description is for chumps apparently. :x
The description is never for chumps. How could it be.

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 15:34
by Halvar
The item is NIB, so a stock photo would be fine if it was an auction on ebay. But ebay Kleinanzeigen (classifieds) is different. I wouldn't buy it over ebay Kleinanzeigen except if I could pick it up personally.