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Cherry Whites still available ?!

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 18:34
by Kurk
Hi there,
I've got this switch from Conrad electronics. It looks just like a Cherry White and it is actually sold as part number MX1A-A1NN which is the correct code for plate-mounted Cherry Whites without LED.
Over at GH, I asked about it but I got no clear-cut answer. What do you think?
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?2723 ... post513289

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 18:39
by Ascaii
amazing...they are available.

http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/706351/Cherry

ordered 120 for myself.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:00
by Daemon Raccoon
Interesting, the English language site claims it's sold out.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:01
by Ascaii
If anyone plans on ordering some, i just got a 5€ coupon from conrad...after my purchase -.-
Wouldnt mind passing it on.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:18
by sixty
AMAZING FIND! It has to be new old stock.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:24
by Daemon Raccoon
Why does The Keyboard Co. have them too?

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:26
by sixty
Maybe it is actually a new model that we somehow missed and which came out recently. Looking at the pics again, it indeed seems as this is a solid white version, while the older vintage version from 1986 is more clear - in fact identical to modern MX clears.

Image

If you have access to clears, could you take a pic next to them like I did above?

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:27
by Spharx
Save 10€ if you buy stuff worth more than 50€: 020272-U0 (scroll down)
Btw. : If you look at the stem bottom of the switch that Kurrk posted you will see a difference compared to this pic of a white switch in the geekhack wiki img src
Is geekhack currently ddos'ed? Kinda really slow today ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:31
by ripster
Lol. I should have screenshotted my post.

Anyhoo, they are mos def Cherry Whites.

I won't mention links this time.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:53
by sordna
What's the difference between Cherry whites and greens in operating force/characteristics?

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:55
by mintberryminuscrunch
...
keyboardco says:
Actuation force 65 ± 20 cN apx.
Pressure point force 80 ± 20 cN

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:58
by Swede
Conrad has some strange stuff, ordered my 5.5mm screwdriver for my Model M there... Only place I could find it. Not even the hardware store where I worked at the time could get one. And those guys got some fucked up orders sometimes :P

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 19:59
by webwit
Nice floor.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 20:00
by Ascaii
got mine there as well =D

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 20:13
by webwit
A 5.5mm nutdriver isn't really that special, you just won't find it in consumer hardware stores. Conrad are like Viking/Office Depot. They have a big visual presence, lots of marketing, free toy whatever when you order, big catalog, shitty service, aim at the grey area between amateur and professional, and you will always pay a price premium because of all the overhead.

Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 20:14
by Kurk
sixty wrote:If you have access to clears, could you take a pic next to them like I did above?
Unfortunately there are no clears in my household. Not until the Phantom group buy order arrives ;)

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 00:59
by sixty
So I talked to Bruce this morning (since they also have some in stock) and it turns out that he just ordered them based on the old part number. The stock they received is from 2007, which is still 20 years later than the last ones we have seen used of these. That must mean that Cherry still made these, or even still makes them for replacement parts and such, and no one ever noticed. Mind blown.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 01:10
by 7bit
Just read this (conrad.de):
Verfügbarkeit: lieferbar ab 11.05.2012

I will see if blainchen's source has got them as well ...

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 02:04
by webwit
That was quick. I always wonder what they think on the other side when something like this happens.

Not selling for years, not selling, not selling, STAMPEDE, out of stock.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 06:49
by ripster
mintberryminuscrunch wrote:...
keyboardco says:
Actuation force 65 ± 20 cN apx.
Pressure point force 80 ± 20 cN

They do?

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 06:58
by BiNiaRiS
do these feel different than blues?

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 07:11
by sixty
BiNiaRiS wrote:do these feel different than blues?
There are two types. I have both in my collection. One type is almost identical to blues, but feels a bit more smooth. The other type feels more like a green switch and has a kinda ALPSish feel. Looking at the datasheet, these are the ALPSy ones and should feel VERY different from the Blue MX.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 08:57
by fossala
I got some in yesterday, they feel less tactile than blues and definetly a quiter click.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 15:19
by mtl
sixty wrote:So I talked to Bruce this morning (since they also have some in stock) and it turns out that he just ordered them based on the old part number. The stock they received is from 2007, which is still 20 years later than the last ones we have seen used of these. That must mean that Cherry still made these, or even still makes them for replacement parts and such, and no one ever noticed. Mind blown.
I wonder if this is the way to order clicky dark blues / teals? Not sure what the part number is for those, though.

Conrad doesn't appear to ship to the U.S. :(

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 15:44
by guilleguillaume
I don't actually understand from description on Keyboardco if these are ready for keyboards with PCB mounted switches so they could be used on the Poker or are for plate mounted keyboards.

If those are ready to mount on the Poker I may try them.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 17:40
by Kurk
guilleguillaume wrote:I don't actually understand from description on Keyboardco if these are ready for keyboards with PCB mounted switches so they could be used on the Poker or are for plate mounted keyboards.

If those are ready to mount on the Poker I may try them.
If you hover over the picture at their website...
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_deta ... RODUCT=944
... it says "MX1A-A1NN", which is the part number for plate-mountable switches. It also says in the description that "it does not have the 2 smaller fixing pins found on some Cherry switches". These small pins are only found on PCB-mountable switches.

Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 18:22
by ripster
Well lookie that.

That matches the force curve for CHERRY CLEARS, not the CHERRY WHITES at the place that must not be named or my post will be deleted.

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 17:32
by gulfar
then, definitely the switch they sell in conrad.de are authentic switch white?

http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/7063 ... Detail=005

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 17:38
by Icarium
"sell" they are not really available it seems...
I ordered ten but got only two.

Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 11:24
by sixty
Ordered 150 from my source yesterday, got them today. Whites indeed. These are different in color from the 1987 ones. Comparison pictures later.