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Help for my Cherry G80-1000! USB connect and others Q'S

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 13:53
by lorenzobrak
Hello everybody! I'm new to this forum and I hope to find some help with my Cherry G80-1000 HAI!
I found this keyboard some days ago searching for a mechanical old one after I discovered their benefits (apart from the lovely sound) on the net, and after a good cleaning with compressed air, because there was a lot of 80's dust inside ( it was built in 1987!) , and happily i checked it connecting to a pc with an old 5-pin to PS2 connector, and it worked!
down here you can find all the infos I could discover about this lovely keyboard:
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CHERRY G80-1000 HAI (don't know what HAI means.. )
Italian layout
producted in 1987 in West Germany
mounts Cherry MX Black
it have behind a switch for chaning the protocol ( I think after a research that it's for change from AT to AXprotocol, don't know what this means too .. LOL)
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Questions:
1- How can I make it work with my win 8 PC? do i need just a mini adapter from PS/2 to USB like this http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/USB-PS2F_LR.jpg, or i need an active converter which interprets the ps/2 signal and turn it into the usb one like this http://www.clickykeyboard.com/_ebay/mod ... sb-001.jpg ?

2- can I in some way change EASILY the switches swapping from MX black to MX blue ?

3- Can I change the Keycaps to buy some others that can fit for me? (first of all because this ones are quite yellow 'cause they're old)
4- can I change the chassis with a new one (same model)? i ate the yellow-looking old plastic..

That's it.. i hope you can understand tha i'm a newbie with old-mechanic keyboards.. sorry for flooding you with questions.. and thanks in advance if someone can help me.. see ya!
images links:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dl ... 4425;image
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dl ... 4427;image
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dl ... 4429;image
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dl ... 4442;image
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dl ... 4444;image

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 14:09
by kbdfr
So you want another connector,
want other switches,
want other caps,
want another case.

In other words: you want another keyboard.
:lol:

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 14:14
by ne0phyte
May I ask why you post exactly the same as on Geekhack? You already got answers to all your questions. Double posting 1:1 to different forums is considered a bad behaviour.

Oh and deep-linking to geekhack is a really bad idea. Geekhack links and attachments tend to break :mrgreen:

Welcome to Deskthority!

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 09:46
by lorenzobrak
sorry, but i didn't have much time to stay on the forums, and that's why i copied the text from the other forum. that's the same thing for the images..
i tried also in this forum cause i was wondering if anyone knew this keyboard! Geekhack forum didn't..

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 10:42
by Peter
That's a very nice old keyboard !!
It will look almost like new once you have retrobrighted it .

The connector is probably a DIN-plug - You don't really need a blue-cube for that,
a DIN-to-USB converter should do the job

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:32
by kbdfr
lorenzobrak wrote:[…] i tried also in this forum cause i was wondering if anyone knew this keyboard! Geekhack forum didn't..
:!: :?: :!:
Nothing to be perplex about.
G80 means it has MX switches,
1000 is the older case shape,
HAI means: H=doubleshot keycaps, A=black switches, I=Italian layout.
Peter wrote:That's a very nice old keyboard !!
It will look almost like new once you have retrobrighted it. […]
Nice keyboard indeed, but before lorenzobrak attempts any retrobrighting,
I would suggest he experiences on something he can ruin without remorse :mrgreen:

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:36
by 7bit
The keyboard does not look like it requires retorobrighting. It is just the normal standard computer beige.

Also, HAI is German for shark.

There exist also SAU which is a female pig.

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:41
by Halvar
@kbdfr: Don't bother, this was all explained on GH already. Lorenzo even already added something about what HAI means to the deskthority wiki page of the G80-1000. This should be edited by someone btw.

EDIT: edited Lorenzos changes

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:47
by Peter
I think they are called 'Cows' in English ?
The Danish term is ' so ', means the same as German 'sau' ..
(We have 10-12 million of them at all times - The animal-sau that is :) )

It's often hard to tell how 'yellow' a case actually is from non-professional photos,
but since the OP says he can't stand the yellowish look -
It probably does need retrobrighting ?

Also, you can't really damage the keycaps just by placing them in a jar with hydrogen peroxide ..
The case is another matter, it requires a lot of H2O2 to cover it completely,
more than I feel comfortable purchasing these days - Since H2O2 can also be used for something else !

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:55
by Halvar
If you use the Xanthan gel recipe or cream developer you need less than for a few hair bleachings.

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 14:22
by Muirium
Sow (rhymes with tau) is the English name for a she-pig. Not to be confused with sow (rhymes with glow) which is planting seeds. Nor to be confused with sew (also rhymes with glow) which is what you'd do to mend clothes.

Great language isn't it? So glad all you guys went with sharing ours for convenience. No one's ever been confused by English!

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 16:32
by Findecanor
Peter wrote:Also, you can't really damage the keycaps just by placing them in a jar with hydrogen peroxide ..
They could get white streaks if you use a too strong solution for too long. 10-15% H2O2 should be OK.
Peter wrote:The Danish term is ' so ', means the same as German 'sau' ..
Sau means "sheep" in Norwegian.
lorenzobrak wrote:CHERRY G80-1000 HAI (don't know what HAI means.. )
The number can be deciphered using the Wiki. :)

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 20:25
by Gilgam
And if the keycap sets does not fit you i think you can give/sell to many italiani !! :-)

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 21:26
by lorenzobrak
lol! thanks a lot guys! you helped me soo much!
just one last thing.. can someone tell me for sure (or quite xD) if i need an active or passive adapter for this keyboard? i already have a DIN (f) to ps2 (m) connector, but i don't have the ps2 to usb one.. active or passive?
thanks, you're awesome :)

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 22:01
by Daniel Beardsmore
Active.

Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 20:51
by lorenzobrak
want to link me some cheap-good one? thanks

Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 22:18
by Gilgam
Cheap and good does not play well together.

There were some active for sale at GH. A group buy.
They work fine.

Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 22:22
by 7bit
Halvar wrote:@kbdfr: Don't bother, this was all explained on GH already. ....
Yeah, but that was before the rootworm purged their wiki!
:evilgeek:

Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 22:30
by Halvar
OK, actually thrice: 1st in some thread by ripster (deleted by iMav's henchmen I think), then in the wiki (deleted by those rootworm assholes), and then in this thread:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44384.0