Soarer wrote:The shiny spot on my spacebar is below 'N' - so that counts out the three double width bars for me at least! I think it would start to feel cramped anyway. Also, the PCB layout wouldn't work for double width keys with stabilizers. It would work if each bar had two actual switches (POS style), but that's a fairly nasty 'feel'. I might as well put them on as an option though, as six independant switches, and let the firmware sort it out
I'm pretty sure SP can do 1x2 and 1x3 spacebars, but whether they get the stems in the right positions is another matter!
That's true, but it doesn't 'balance' the key cap like a proper stabilizer would. As long as you're mostly hitting the end with the sprung switch I guess it would be acceptable though.kbdfr wrote:With a double width keycap over two switches in POS style, you just have to remove the spring from one of the switches. If your keycap has a corresponding stem, the switch will act as a stabilizer without adding to the activation force required for the other ("active") one. It moves up and down with the keycap, but only "guides" it on its way and is sort of a "slave" of the keycap.
I modified a Cherry spacebar to fit a Filco, and used the Filco as a jig But, if I pay for some keycaps to be made, I should not expect to have to mod them!kbdfr wrote:And modding a keycap so as to have the stem in the right place is no great matter. No need for any complicated device like ripster described on GH, an old keyboard will do.
More than that. On my Tipro I even have only one stem for the (double width) backspace keycap, because I did not want to alter anything to the keyboard itself. The stem sits on the left switch and there is no connection at all between the right switch and the keycap. Now when I hit the key just above the right switch, there is just a very slight difference from hitting it above the left switch. It's only when hitting it at the very right end that I have to really force it down.Soarer wrote:That's true, but it doesn't 'balance' the key cap like a proper stabilizer would. As long as you're mostly hitting the end with the sprung switch I guess it would be acceptable though.
Don't buy anything. Just use NumPad0 or Backspace keycaps (with erased lettering), depending on the profile you prefer(...) But, if I pay for some keycaps to be made, I should not expect to have to mod them!
Yes, enter is that size... the blank sets from the GH R3 GB had both styles of caps lock, so that's why caps is offset and enter isn't . 2 full sets + an extra modifier set gets enough keys for three of these boards. I ordered that combo for both clear and black blanks, so I can make six! Space bars are a problem, since SP did the 1x6 wrongly, and now there's the 1x3 and 1x2 options on the PCB... but yes, the original 1x6 is the same as a modern G8x-1800.Findecanor wrote:Are you planning to use a centered <Caps Lock> key for <Enter> and a <Space> bar from a G80-1800 with win keys?
Good point, I'll do that. I'm not intending to include any 'numlock on' mode either, although I might add some of the numpad keys (*, +, enter etc) into the unused positions in the function layer (useful for macros / key assignments in apps etc).Findecanor wrote:Let me suggest that you let the arrow keys emit symbols for the arrow cluster, and not for the numeric key pad. Arrows and keypad-arrows are not treated equal in all programs and OSs.
This is something I will have to experiment with. At first, the easiest is to simply do them as keys. But using a keymap opens up a lot of possibilities - I think I would locate them based on frequency of use by a C++ programmerFindecanor wrote:About, the extra symbols on Q, W, A, S, etc.. do you intend to do them with <Fn> so that they represent the keys they replace, or do you intend to customize the keymap on the host? If I were making a custom keymap on the host and did not have to care about scan codes, then I would assign them to keys based on mnemonics. For instance A for @, H for #, etc.
BTW, in German layout @ is on Q and µ is on M, with legends for these combos on the keys.