Has i posted before here i found this baby a few months ago.
I wanted to see if i could get it working, i bought some atmega34u arduino controllers but i dont really know where to start to do this.. i know how to code, but i don't have that much experience with electronics, just some basic understanding and expert google skills
this is the connector:
so, where to start?
getting a nixdorf softkeys keyboard working
- scottc
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- Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1 HS, Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black
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I'm no expert by any means, but I'd probably do the following:
- Find out which computer or terminal it interfaces with
- Find out what protocol that computer's keyboards use
- Find out the pinout of that cable or reverse engineer it
Your expert Google skills should help you with #1 and #2, but you're on your own for the rest. Good luck!
- Find out which computer or terminal it interfaces with
- Find out what protocol that computer's keyboards use
- Find out the pinout of that cable or reverse engineer it
Your expert Google skills should help you with #1 and #2, but you're on your own for the rest. Good luck!
- HzFaq
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If you're going for a full controller replacement, mapping the matrix would be a good start; you can then find out how many rows/columns there are and how many pins you will need on your converter.
From there on, you can follow that to get your converter set up and firmware sorted.
Broadly...I've not actually done this yet (I've been planning to map the matrix of my Acces-IS board for months), but that was going to be my starting point.
From there on, you can follow that to get your converter set up and firmware sorted.
Broadly...I've not actually done this yet (I've been planning to map the matrix of my Acces-IS board for months), but that was going to be my starting point.
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well googling about this keyboard isnt that easy, most of the posts send me to reddit/GH/deskthority with people drooling about the booby-soft-switches and what not
but i did find this topic in google groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... KrHZBbqhoQ
I used google translate and apparently they are just saying that the connector doesn't fit anything they know..
this might be related to the controller, but i'll need to confirm when i get home: http://www.keil.com/dd/docs/datashts/in ... 1sl_ds.pdf
this is what i have so far.
one thing i was thinking was giving a 5 volt current in each pin and see what happens.. can this break something? i should be able to find which one is the power pin this way right?
but i did find this topic in google groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... KrHZBbqhoQ
I used google translate and apparently they are just saying that the connector doesn't fit anything they know..
this might be related to the controller, but i'll need to confirm when i get home: http://www.keil.com/dd/docs/datashts/in ... 1sl_ds.pdf
this is what i have so far.
one thing i was thinking was giving a 5 volt current in each pin and see what happens.. can this break something? i should be able to find which one is the power pin this way right?
- sphinx
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this is a good idea to try if my first plan fails.. first i want to try to fully restore the keyboard without replacing the controllerHzFaq wrote: ↑If you're going for a full controller replacement, mapping the matrix would be a good start; you can then find out how many rows/columns there are and how many pins you will need on your converter.
From there on, you can follow that to get your converter set up and firmware sorted.
Broadly...I've not actually done this yet (I've been planning to map the matrix of my Acces-IS board for months), but that was going to be my starting point.
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so far i found this keyboard was from a Nixdorf Targon system, thanks to this GH Thread
From this link, i found that apparently Nixdorf Targon systems used UNIX, so i might be close to something
From this link, i found that apparently Nixdorf Targon systems used UNIX, so i might be close to something
From the 1980s, international "open" standards prevailed in the computer market. Nixdorf followed this trend in 1985 with its universal Targon system, which was based on the manufacturer-independent UNIX operating system.
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from wikipedia:
translated
Spoiler:
wow such specsTargon / 31/32/35 System Families: From 1988, these systems were used in banking, industry and trade. All three families of systems were operated under the AT & T Unix System V. The Targon / 31 and / 32 systems based on the Motorola 680xx processors family and were positioned as a "small" servers. At this time, the current client-server architectures with this system have already been covered. So 1990 was possible to run Microsoft Windows 3.11 client with a Targon / 31 as print and file server.
The Targon / 32 family was designed as a fault-tolerant system. CPU, memory and hard disk replacement were possible during operation.
Targon / 35 operated the large Unix installations and was no in-house development of Nixdorf but an acquisition by the company Pyramid.