[GB] [IC] Xiang Ming KSB Alps Clone Switches

I am considering running a USA group buy for Xiang Ming KSB switches. This will be my first group buy ever so I may make some mistakes.

Anyway, the switches are clicky and linear (KSB-C and KSB-LE) "The clicky switches are noted for being significantly stiffer than Alps and Fuhua switches, with strong tactility."

wiki/Xiang_Min_KSB_series

I am just putting this out there to see how many would be interested in such a group buy, reply if interested.
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what's the appeal of these ?
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what is this ?
Myoth wrote:what's the appeal of these ?

Good in-production Alps clone
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abrahamstechnology wrote:
Myoth wrote:what's the appeal of these ?

Good in-production Alps clone

This might be interesting, especially the "Clicky" version. Does anyone know how long these switches will last?
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Elrick wrote:
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Myoth wrote:what's the appeal of these ?

Good in-production Alps clone

This might be interesting, especially the "Clicky" version. Does anyone know how long these switches will last?

Their site says 5 million, but I don't know if that's accurate, I think they tested it under 12v. I'd say with normal keyboard usage around 20 million you get with SKBM-like switches. They are gold plated and look similar to Tai-Hao's contacts.
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Xiang Ming hasn't responded yet, so I contacted Hua-Jie.

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"Significantly stiffer" than white Alps sounds a little scary to me.
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Techno Trousers wrote:"Significantly stiffer" than white Alps sounds a little scary to me.

REAL men are never scared, they just tackle any switch regardless.

This switch is probably used by Arnold Schwarzenegger on his non-acting days. So if the Terminator can use them, any brave individual could do the same.
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abrahamstechnology wrote:
Myoth wrote:what's the appeal of these ?

Good in-production Alps clone

good? in regards to what?

I mean doesn't matias already sortof fill this hole? even their stuff is very underwhelming. Simplified alps clones can't possibly be in high demand.
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Myoth wrote:what's the appeal of these ?

Good in-production Alps clone

good? in regards to what?

I mean doesn't matias already sortof fill this hole? even their stuff is very underwhelming. Simplified alps clones can't possibly be in high demand.

Mainly because other than Matias and to a lesser extent, Tai-Hao, they are extremely hard to get. The last time XMs were in the mainstream was some old Ducky board from 2010, before the mechanical renaissance of recent years. In fact, I can't seem to get in contact with Xiang Min at all, I may have to make this a Hua-Jie only group buy (I DID get in contact with them)
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Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244
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Polecat wrote:Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244

That might be a better bet, since Xiang Min isn't responding at all. However they don't seem to have a clicky version.
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I'm guessing that blue/tactile might be clicky, as opposed to brown/silent tactile.
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Polecat wrote:Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244

That might be a better bet, since Xiang Min isn't responding at all. However they don't seem to have a clicky version.
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Polecat wrote:I'm guessing that blue/tactile might be clicky, as opposed to brown/silent tactile.
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Polecat wrote:Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244

That might be a better bet, since Xiang Min isn't responding at all. However they don't seem to have a clicky version.

Most likely. I'll shoot them an e-mail.
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Here's the past discussion on the Datacomp switches. Seems strange that nobody has actual examples in hand:

keyboards-f2/new-datacomp-alps-t17278.html?hilit=matias%20slider#p384343
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Polecat wrote:Here's the past discussion on the Datacomp switches. Seems strange that nobody has actual examples in hand:

keyboards-f2/new-datacomp-alps-t17278.html?hilit=matias%20slider#p384343

Hopefully that'll change. If they get back to me I'll buy a bunch and resell them here.
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