Nice, definitely looks cool. He doesn't ship outside the US though, and I'm sure that with normal shipping rates it would be much too expensive for me. Definitely a cool board though, thanks for the link .snuci wrote:Chyros wrote:I'm sure I saw one of these, I think it might even have been in the DTA awards, but I can't find it back. Does anyone remember what this was and what it came with? Looks really cool, REALLY expensive though.
I have one of these keyboards but have not taken pics because Haata has one and has pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaa...325648986/ . Just noticed it's also in the link posted by Daniel Beardsmore above. It's a very nice keyboard.
EDIT: Chyros, you might consider this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/262754371474 If I didn't have one already, I would have bought this one.
Harshmallow wrote:This thing looks...homemade. The listing has had several revisions and I think the seller actually first listed this thing at a whopping $3500!
Harshmallow wrote:Even now, who the heck would pay that price?
Your link is broken; should be fixed on my post. Not sure where they come from but I'm pretty sure they're not doubleshot AND dyesubbed :p .ShishHappens wrote:Really stuck on this one. I know they're alps mount and they're dye subbed and doubleshot but I don't know anything more. Thanks
Mr.Nobody wrote:What's this keyboard?
Mr.Nobody wrote:and this?
Daniel Beardsmore wrote:By the way, this is the switch from that Siemens Fanuc keyboard:
gogusrl wrote:those were mine a while back. they yellowed ones are doubleshot, the others are dyesubbed or pad printed. pretty sure i offered a disclaimer in my sale ad and the buyer seemed happy since he didn't say anything.
not sure about the source but it was some type of laptop.
Mr.Nobody wrote:Thank you, 25.96$/Pc...that's expensive, how much do you think the keyboard is worth then?
Mr.Nobody wrote:What's this?
Daniel Beardsmore wrote:Mr.Nobody wrote:Thank you, 25.96$/Pc...that's expensive, how much do you think the keyboard is worth then?
The Fanuc keyboard — I have no idea. (I was told it was made by Siemens, but the pictures don't show any Siemens branding, so the Siemens claim may be an error.)Mr.Nobody wrote:What's this?
I have no idea — it doesn't look like anything I have ever seen before.
If you browse switch patents¹ you will find patents for many types of switch that have never been seen in an actual keyboard. Some may never have gone into production, but others are waiting to be discovered. The only people who might have this switch in their collection are HaaTa and snuci.
¹ One trick is to go to a known switch patent and explore the citations and references. That's how I rediscovered the patent—which I'd seen before but didn't recognise—for the Philips keyswitch. It was only after I'd obtained some of the switches (and it took two years to find any for sale!) and took them apart that I could match them to the patent drawings.
Even on AliExpress now there are mystery switches and mystery keyboards:
- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/blah/1059110_32742706493.html — never yet seen in a keyboard; £16.59/switch, MOQ 5 (a Chinese site shows disassembly of this switch, and I contacted the article author for the photos and was, as expected, completely ignored; for now it's classified as USw LXII01)
- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/bumf/1059110_32735281767.html — looks cheap, may be foam and foil; a mere £7.31/switch at MOQ of 20!
- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/scud/1059110_32654147201.html — at the top you can see an Alps integrated dome type, but in the keyboard below is that pseudo-Himake thing that seebart's got (I didn't even realise it was a switch; it looks more like a stabiliser)
- https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/flan/1059110_32736432755.html — this doesn't even look like a discrete switch, and at £10.96/switch (MOQ 5) I don't intend to find out!
The Chinese are tearing up old keyboards in order to flog the switches at insane prices and in the process are throwing away all the keyboard details. Having pressured harry ke in particular to preserve the details, some more recent listings do now show some keyboard details, but typically not enough to date the keyboard.
If they weren't so despicably greedy, I'd buy every one of these switch types for the purposes of research, but at these prices I'm very choosy about which switches I buy. I hate even validating their business model by buying anything from them, but sometimes I just have to buy something for its knowledge value, on the basis that I won't ever find the switch elsewhere.
Harshmallow wrote:Sweet Jesus, these prices are indeed ridiculous. I just saw 20 or so poor Alps plate spring switches that were ripped out of a P70 and will likely languish on this site forever. I also saw some vomit green colored NEC ovals...have those been documented before?
Chyros wrote:Harry Ke's switches aren't even clean, they're often so dirty the sliders barely even move at all. I'd recommend only buying new/NOS switches from him.
Yeah, I figured they weren't all his - I think a lot of those merchants actually sell from a common source (much like those parts suppliers do). This might partly explain why he REALLY wouldn't back down on the pricing on some of them (no MX Lock for me, unfortunately D: ).Daniel Beardsmore wrote:Chyros wrote:Harry Ke's switches aren't even clean, they're often so dirty the sliders barely even move at all. I'd recommend only buying new/NOS switches from him.
They're not his per se — he's an agent for upstream sellers and the parts don't seem to pass through his office. My sole Mitsumi standard illuminated switch was a sample he'd received, which he let me have for free as the MOQ proved to be too high (1000). I don't know how that switch and the rest of the batch were united. I'm still unclear on quite how this all works.
The best batch I had were the space invaders, which were expertly desoldered, albeit a bit dirty. The Futaba ML-like ones though are in a deplorable state, and some even get stuck.
It's a gamble, I realise. Even the NOS parts can be damaged — being Yorkshire in spirit (and blood but not birth) you had a couple of my fractured NEC oval switches, packaged in some lame effort to stop the legs coming off completely. Normally the worst issue with NOS parts is that they appear to have done time in a stone polisher as they're horribly rough and look awful in photos. (Mostly those SKBL/SKBM switches.)