Topre KB0300

I imagine most of you will file this under 'mildly interesting', but thought I would share anyway as new discoveries in the Topre world are few and far between.

I managed to get my hands on another Topre keyboard and found that does not use a metal mounting plate for its switches. It is the KB0300 and it was available in Japan in the second half of 2005. This was probably the first taste of Topre for the more budget-minded Japanese keyboard aficionado. At one point it was available new on vshopu for just 9,777 yen! The keyboard itself is very light compared to a Realforce and the switches definitely feel different -- probably much closer to an HHKB I would imagine. For some reason, they put an LED under the blank key next to the right Shift. Also strange is that they decided on Japanese legends for some modifiers and even put a legend on the space :shock:

As far as I know, the only other plastic moulded mounting plate keyboards made by Topre are the μTRON and the HHKB Pro series.

Image


I'm sorry about the shit lighting on this pic -- I'll take a better one for the wiki page when I get around to writing it
Image
002
User avatar
Topre Enthusiast

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 10:18

User avatar
X
002
Topre Enthusiast
 
Posts: 2581
Joined: 14 Mar 2011, 23:42
Location: Australia
Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
Favorite switch: Topre
Club member: 0002
 
Eventhough I would not considder myself an Topre enthusiast, this is interesting.You should not even think about not posting something like this! Congrats to your rare find! Amazing board.
seebart
User avatar
Offtopicthority Instigator

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 10:21

User avatar
X
seebart
Offtopicthority Instigator
 
Posts: 9162
Joined: 22 Nov 2013, 20:20
Location: Germany
Main keyboard: Rotation
Main mouse: Roccat Kova+
Favorite switch: Beam Spring
Club member: 0061
 
Awesome find !!! Looking forward for more pics. Is it uniform or variable?
zts

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 10:26

X
zts
 
Posts: 249
Joined: 11 Feb 2015, 07:57
Location: CA, USA
Main keyboard: Realforce 87UW55
Main mouse: Logitech
Favorite switch: Topre 55g
Club member: 0116
 
Thanks guys :)
This one is uniform 45g. Now that you mention it, I am pretty sure that variable force is actually something unique to the Realforce line. The exception to this are collaborative keyboards (e.g. older Just Limited models, CS NEO, etc) which are essentially just modified Realforces.
002
User avatar
Topre Enthusiast

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 10:35

User avatar
X
002
Topre Enthusiast
 
Posts: 2581
Joined: 14 Mar 2011, 23:42
Location: Australia
Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
Favorite switch: Topre
Club member: 0002
 
 
Tokyo Press
Topre enthusiast
Image
Cool board! Funky layout for being contemporary and that enter is really a fat bastard.
Khers
User avatar

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 12:08

User avatar
X
Khers
 
Posts: 1457
Joined: 11 Sep 2014, 12:23
Location: Sweden
Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
Main mouse: Logitech G602
Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring | Topre | Nixdorf Black
Club member: 0087
 
 
Vintage looking, isn't it? Yet, for a little while, this was the Topre for all those who forever ask "but where can I get one for less than a [prized body part]?!?!" If they were in Japan…

The Type Heaven's ancestor. Those caps are lasered, right? The ESC key looks straight off my oddball "Vatican Edition" G80-3000LAMIT!
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 12:13

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
There is definitely a vintage vibe to it. Most everything else out there looks kind of like an IBM M. This is cool though!

Furthermore, there are semi-spheres on f and j rather than the nowadays Topre-typical (?) bars.

What cap material are we talking? Guessing ABS, but that's only based on price ^^
Khers
User avatar

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 12:19

User avatar
X
Khers
 
Posts: 1457
Joined: 11 Sep 2014, 12:23
Location: Sweden
Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
Main mouse: Logitech G602
Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring | Topre | Nixdorf Black
Club member: 0087
 
 
Caps are actually good old dye-sub PBT! I am pretty sure that the re-legendables are ABS, though.
Characteristic ABS yellowing is evident on other examples of Topre boards with re-legendable caps:

Spoiler:
Image

gb0200.jpg
002
User avatar
Topre Enthusiast

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 12:49

User avatar
X
002
Topre Enthusiast
 
Posts: 2581
Joined: 14 Mar 2011, 23:42
Location: Australia
Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
Favorite switch: Topre
Club member: 0002
 
Ugh.. That's a beauty.

I really want some Japanese keycaps for my 87u 55 now :x

Actually, scratch that.. I really want my 87u 55 now, but don't have the money to pay for shipping from my proxy :lol:
photekq
User avatar
Cherry Picker

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 12:58

User avatar
X
photekq
Cherry Picker
 
Posts: 2386
Joined: 04 Mar 2013, 23:14
Location: United Kingdom
Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
Club member: 0068
 
 
Interested in keyboards (first and foremost), politics, history, computers, and big machines.

PM me about anything, or talk to me here :

Skype - viral.bro
Steam - blutboomer
Hmm. PBT, absolutely. But how do you know they're dyesub, besides an educated guess?

The lasered PBT caps on that oddball Cherry of mine aren't bad. But the legends are pale and insubstantial compared to dyesubs. This board looks a bit like it in the pics. How about comparing a cap against a Realforce? With an eye to legend quality in particular.
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 13:09

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
 
I am pretty confident they are dye-sub. I am in the Myopia generation but my near-distance sight is still very good :)

I think the pics are not that great because the camera lens I am using is junk and you can see the chromatic aberration on the 'R'. I was using a pretty wide aperture I think so the tops of the caps being out of focus makes them blurry and doesn't help but if you really aren't convinced I'll break out the extension tube on the weekend and take some clearer pics.
002
User avatar
Topre Enthusiast

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 13:36

User avatar
X
002
Topre Enthusiast
 
Posts: 2581
Joined: 14 Mar 2011, 23:42
Location: Australia
Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
Favorite switch: Topre
Club member: 0002
 
Side by side macros on the legends please!
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 13:55

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
 
Those are absolutely dyesubs. No contest.
photekq
User avatar
Cherry Picker

Unread post17 Jun 2015, 14:02

User avatar
X
photekq
Cherry Picker
 
Posts: 2386
Joined: 04 Mar 2013, 23:14
Location: United Kingdom
Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
Club member: 0068
 
 
Interested in keyboards (first and foremost), politics, history, computers, and big machines.

PM me about anything, or talk to me here :

Skype - viral.bro
Steam - blutboomer
Huh, i think i have a NIB numpad with the same switches, I wonder if it could be a topre.
Ascaii
User avatar
The Beard

Unread post18 Jun 2015, 00:29

User avatar
X
Ascaii
The Beard
 
Posts: 2687
Joined: 30 Jan 2011, 11:04
Location: Berlin, Germany
Main keyboard: CM Novatouch, g80-1851
Main mouse: Logitech G500 / Rollermouse Pro
Favorite switch: Topre, Ergo clears
Club member: 0019
 
 
Im going to be selling off a lot of my collection in the next weeks, keep an eye on my thread in the marketplace.
Beautiful board, thanks for sharing!
ray4jc

Unread post18 Jun 2015, 02:16

X
ray4jc
 
Posts: 123
Joined: 29 Apr 2013, 19:06
Location: USA
Main keyboard: Ducky DK9008 Shine II
Main mouse: G700
Favorite switch: Clear MX
Club member: -
 
Look really good! I'm one of happy hacking user. So I have lot of interesting this style of switches.
Is this model only for Japan? Hmmm... I hope to get more chance for testing of local keyboards.
Where can I try to test typing in Tokyo? Tell me a good place for me. :)
kbdcraft

Unread post20 Jun 2015, 13:29

X
kbdcraft
 
Posts: 77
Joined: 26 May 2015, 06:35
Location: Seoul / Korea
Main keyboard: Happy Hacking Pro 2 Type-S
Main mouse: Logitech MX-518
Favorite switch: None Click
 
DAT FUNKY LAYOUT :) That's a nice catch, thanks for the write up! Love those rare beasts.
Cafeine
User avatar

Unread post20 Jun 2015, 15:19

User avatar
X
Cafeine
 
Posts: 80
Joined: 23 Jan 2013, 20:14
Location: Paris / France
Main keyboard: Leopold FC660C
Main mouse: Mionix Naos 7000
Favorite switch: Topre
Club member: -
 
kbdcraft wrote:Look really good! I'm one of happy hacking user. So I have lot of interesting this style of switches.
Is this model only for Japan? Hmmm... I hope to get more chance for testing of local keyboards.
Where can I try to test typing in Tokyo? Tell me a good place for me. :)

Unfortunately the KB0300 isn't for sale anymore, but you might be able to find a second-hand one somewhere in Akihabara. Or you could grab the one currently on Yahoo Auctions: http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/a ... r126654607

Another bit of trivia: Apparently this keyboard was made for Casio. They made 200 of them and I'm not sure what happened but at some point a whole bunch of them were in the hands of vshopu and some shops in Akihabara. Perhaps Casio didn't need them in the end and sold them all off? Or maybe they didn't quite need as many as they were given and got rid of the excess. This is what happened with the green and orange ilovex keyboard.
002
User avatar
Topre Enthusiast

Unread post20 Jun 2015, 23:18

User avatar
X
002
Topre Enthusiast
 
Posts: 2581
Joined: 14 Mar 2011, 23:42
Location: Australia
Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
Favorite switch: Topre
Club member: 0002
 
Oh wow cool find man.. Love my Realforce, so this is neat to see....
dustinhxc
User avatar

Unread post27 Jun 2015, 15:56

User avatar
X
dustinhxc
 
Posts: 84
Joined: 01 Nov 2013, 02:15
Location: MN
Main keyboard: Realforce 104 UB-DK 45G
Main mouse: Roccat Kone Pure
Favorite switch: 45g Topre/ Clears 62g
Club member: -
 
 
I <3 KBKs

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ekeppel, orihalcon, pockita, vometia, vvp and 62 guests