[External] Make Soarer's Converter for $8 - no soldering or other bull

Leonardo R3 Pro - Same chip as Teensy, more than twice cheaper.

Image

Notice the wire slots instead of pins/soldering pads.

Download Soarer's hex file (Soarer_at2usb_v1.12_atmega32u4.hex) from https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17458.0;attach=25397 and CodeBlocks for Arduino from http://arduinodev.com/codeblocks/#download

Connect the board to your computer and run ArduinoBuilder.exe.
In "Board Type", select Arduino Leonardo. The program should autodetect the board and let you specify the file to load.

Image

To connect the board to your keyboard, follow this pin list (mentioned in one of Soarer's posts, thanks again):

Code: Select all
Conn.     Leonardo
GND -------- GND
Vcc/+5V ---- 5V
Data ------- D3 (Digital 3)
Clock ------ D2
Reset ------ D11 (optional)


Check Soarer's original guide https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0 for connector diagrams, and beware! Don't (mentally) let the connector point TO you when assigning pins, the diagrams are drawn with connectors pointing AWAY from you. I'm glad I made this mistake on a terminal keyboard, if it's AT or PS/2 I might have had my 5V and ground swapped and fried the Leonardo.

All's left is to plug wires into their wire slots. You can either cut the connector off the original keyboard wire to expose the pin wires, or use a port to hook up some wires, like I did:

Image

Enjoy.
Last edited by dzhoou on 26 Dec 2014, 19:57, edited 3 times in total.
dzhoou

Unread post26 Dec 2014, 14:08

X
dzhoou
 
Posts: 227
Joined: 21 Nov 2014, 06:15
Main keyboard: 6110668
 
Great little guide! Perfect for those who can't or don't want to solder.
But shouldn't this be in workshop section? Because you don't sell these right?
Anyway I leave that to the mods.
Btw it would be great if you found a "shield"(or cable) with DIN, PS2 and rj45 connectors that goes to the associated pinholes. So you don't have to solder that aswell.
beltet
User avatar

Unread post26 Dec 2014, 18:10

User avatar
X
beltet
 
Posts: 834
Joined: 28 Jul 2013, 23:12
Location: Stockholm Sweden
Main keyboard: Custom NerD60
Main mouse: Saitek cyborg R.A.T 7
Favorite switch: Ergo MX Clear
Club member: -
 
Very nice. Yes I believe workshop would be the correct category for this. That Leonardo board seems to be readily available too.

>:/
seebart
User avatar
Offtopicthority Instigator

Unread post26 Dec 2014, 18:25

User avatar
X
seebart
Offtopicthority Instigator
 
Posts: 9162
Joined: 22 Nov 2013, 20:20
Location: Germany
Main keyboard: Rotation
Main mouse: Roccat Kova+
Favorite switch: Beam Spring
Club member: 0061
 
 
Great guide! I will be picking up one of these shortly. Hope my terminal M isn't fried.
Touch_It
User avatar

Unread post26 Dec 2014, 19:14

User avatar
X
Touch_It
 
Posts: 630
Joined: 22 Sep 2014, 22:52
Location: Nebraska, United States.
Main keyboard: Unicomp Classic USB 103 key (work) IBM F 4704 107
Main mouse: Logitech g502 Proteus Core
Favorite switch: Buckling spring (yet to try Beam Spring)
 
Nice tip. I would move the thread to Workshop if I knew how to in the admin UI:

Spoiler:
Screen Shot 2014-12-26 at 7.32.58 pm.png

The sheer teensiness of Teensies really appeals to me, but for this price your solution is well worth a shot. I'll start suggesting these to people looking to make their first Soarer's Converter.
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post26 Dec 2014, 19:35

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
Thanks guys. I found out about the workshop section after posting this and was like, oh well, at least Marketplace is a lot more populous :) A mod is welcome to move it though.

In all honesty if you don't like dissecting the keyboard cable for wires, the connectors for XT/AT/Terminal can even be wired out using electrical tape and wires. Give the damned RJ45 connector the dissecting treatment >: )
dzhoou

Unread post26 Dec 2014, 19:39

X
dzhoou
 
Posts: 227
Joined: 21 Nov 2014, 06:15
Main keyboard: 6110668
 
That's a heck of a lot less work that my kludge.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58941.msg1348717#msg1348717
fohat
User avatar

Unread post27 Dec 2014, 03:23

User avatar
X
fohat
 
Posts: 1998
Joined: 07 Oct 2011, 02:09
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
Club member: 0158
 
Doesn't look to kludgey to me. All you missed out was the vintage knob!

Image

There's a place for these new clip and play boards, but I'd never be able to squeeze all that in there with the huge rotary switch already taking up so much space.
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post27 Dec 2014, 12:33

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
 
So I'll just take a bigger housing, mine just needs to be functional. That switch of yours is old school cool Mu! <_<
seebart
User avatar
Offtopicthority Instigator

Unread post27 Dec 2014, 13:05

User avatar
X
seebart
Offtopicthority Instigator
 
Posts: 9162
Joined: 22 Nov 2013, 20:20
Location: Germany
Main keyboard: Rotation
Main mouse: Roccat Kova+
Favorite switch: Beam Spring
Club member: 0061
 
 
Muirium wrote:
Doesn't look to kludgey to me. All you missed out was the vintage knob!

I'd never be able to squeeze all that in there with the huge rotary switch already taking up so much space.


The knob is bad-ass, as is the bare metal box.

I wired everything hot in parallel and assumed that I would not have more than one item plugged in at a time.
fohat
User avatar

Unread post28 Dec 2014, 01:08

User avatar
X
fohat
 
Posts: 1998
Joined: 07 Oct 2011, 02:09
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
Club member: 0158
 
Is there a guide on the metal box with the vintage knob?
Redmaus
User avatar
Gotta start somewhere

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:08

User avatar
X
Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere
 
Posts: 2249
Joined: 04 Feb 2015, 18:19
Location: Near Dallas, Texas
Main keyboard: ABS M1 with Alps SKCM Orange
Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
Club member: -
 
Come on Mu, we're waiting!
scottc
User avatar

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:18

User avatar
X
scottc
 
Posts: 5293
Joined: 06 Oct 2013, 21:09
Location: Remote locations in Europe
Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1, Alps64 Blue SKCM
Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
Favorite switch: Capacitative BS | Blue Alps | Modded linear MX
Club member: 0081
 
scottc wrote:Come on Mu, we're waiting!

Yeah really I'd like to see a 72 page highly detailed guide with interactive graphics and videos by 22:00 tonight!
I can do the editing if you like!
seebart
User avatar
Offtopicthority Instigator

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:23

User avatar
X
seebart
Offtopicthority Instigator
 
Posts: 9162
Joined: 22 Nov 2013, 20:20
Location: Germany
Main keyboard: Rotation
Main mouse: Roccat Kova+
Favorite switch: Beam Spring
Club member: 0061
 
 
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-st ... eg./1.html

http://www.circuitspecialists.com/die-c ... 1590l.html


This might be useful to some people although I am not sure if the size of the box is right.
Redmaus
User avatar
Gotta start somewhere

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:26

User avatar
X
Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere
 
Posts: 2249
Joined: 04 Feb 2015, 18:19
Location: Near Dallas, Texas
Main keyboard: ABS M1 with Alps SKCM Orange
Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
Club member: -
 
You'll have nothing, and like it!

I took pictures a while ago. My whole library needs an overhaul, though. (Got my eye on Apple's big update due in a month or so, which will give me much needed excuse to unify my disparate drives and cards where I've stashed everything for too long.) It's hairy in there. A good howto probably involves me making a second, which I kinda am looking into.

Now where's that bloody pillar drill?
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:30

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
Muirium wrote:You'll have nothing, and like it!

I took pictures a while ago. My whole library needs an overhaul, though. (Got my eye on Apple's big update due in a month or so, which will give me much needed excuse to unify my disparate drives and cards where I've stashed everything for too long.) It's hairy in there. A good howto probably involves me making a second, which I kinda am looking into.

Now where's that bloody pillar drill?

I was really looking forward to seeing how to make the metal box adapter but oh well maybe another time.

On a side note, does anyone know where to find a black ibm square logo to replace my silver one on my 122 key? I am going to paint it a black or grey color and make the keys a dark grey.
Redmaus
User avatar
Gotta start somewhere

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:41

User avatar
X
Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere
 
Posts: 2249
Joined: 04 Feb 2015, 18:19
Location: Near Dallas, Texas
Main keyboard: ABS M1 with Alps SKCM Orange
Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
Club member: -
 
The controller seems a bit larger than the Teensy 2.0 and I can't see where the pins are soldered to.
:?
7bit
User avatar

Unread post23 Feb 2015, 20:45

User avatar
X
7bit
 
Posts: 13417
Joined: 31 Jan 2011, 23:37
Location: Berlin, DE
Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
Favorite switch: MX Lock
Club member: 0001
 
7bit wrote:The controller seems a bit larger than the Teensy 2.0 and I can't see where the pins are soldered to.
:?

Yes it's bigger than the Teensy, but you're paying less for it and it's a solder-less design.
Rit

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 15:07

X
Rit
 
Posts: 1
Joined: 27 Jan 2015, 16:06
Main keyboard: Logitech G15
Main mouse: Logitech G5
 
I think you can buy a pro micro clone for about the same price; it has the advantage of being around the same size as a teensy (I think) and being compatible with the firmware (same controller).

scottc did a guide on doing it:
workshop-f7/how-to-use-a-pro-micro-as-a-cheap-controller-converter-like-soarer-s-t8448.html

But that does require soldering, so this is a great alternative for someone not wanting to solder one for themselves :)
Stabilized
User avatar

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 16:44

User avatar
X
Stabilized
 
Posts: 826
Joined: 05 Sep 2013, 22:04
Location: Inverness, Scotland
Club member: 0100
 
Stabilized wrote:I think you can buy a pro micro clone for about the same price; it has the advantage of being around the same size as a teensy (I think) and being compatible with the firmware (same controller).

scottc did a guide on doing it:
workshop-f7/how-to-use-a-pro-micro-as-a-cheap-controller-converter-like-soarer-s-t8448.html

But that does require soldering, so this is a great alternative for someone not wanting to solder one for themselves :)


I can confirm they work very well. My XT is up and running on one.

I could not get the programming working in windows tho. Linux however did not fail me :).
andrewjoy

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 16:47

X
andrewjoy
 
Posts: 4404
Joined: 11 Apr 2012, 16:27
Location: UK
Main keyboard: Novatouch (PBT caps) , Model F 122 Terminal
Main mouse: EC Technology 1600dpi / DXT Vertical
Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
Club member: 0167
 
Not even Pro Micros need soldering. Since it has pins included, you can use female-female jumper wires to connect it with keyboard pins :D

A Pro Micro is about $5 on Aliexpress now.
dzhoou

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 17:24

X
dzhoou
 
Posts: 227
Joined: 21 Nov 2014, 06:15
Main keyboard: 6110668
 
The Pro Micro comes with pins, but in most cases they're not soldered to the board, you have to do that yourself (unlike with Teensies).
Halvar
User avatar

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 17:40

User avatar
X
Halvar
 
Posts: 2992
Joined: 10 Nov 2012, 10:29
Location: Baden, DE
Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
Club member: 0051
 
Yup, the Pro Micro I got was naked so soldering was definitely required. Teensies can be ordered with pre-soldered pins, though they usually come without.
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 17:42

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
 
I think if you cannot solder a pin header , you should not be trusted to use a complicated device like a keyboard without adult supervision :P
andrewjoy

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 17:43

X
andrewjoy
 
Posts: 4404
Joined: 11 Apr 2012, 16:27
Location: UK
Main keyboard: Novatouch (PBT caps) , Model F 122 Terminal
Main mouse: EC Technology 1600dpi / DXT Vertical
Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
Club member: 0167
 
If you have a soldering iron and can solder a pin header, you can also solder 4 wires to a Teensy or Pro Micro and you don't need this whole friggin' thread ... :D
Halvar
User avatar

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 17:46

User avatar
X
Halvar
 
Posts: 2992
Joined: 10 Nov 2012, 10:29
Location: Baden, DE
Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
Club member: 0051
 
Some people really like a closed box solution. I point those people here:

http://stores.ebay.com/barcodemaverick? ... nkw=Soarer

Soldering is just one part of the bother of fitting an internal converter. You need to mount the thing right, and do something nice with the new cable, too. My goodness!

Speaking of which: I need to find a better way to mount my Pro Micro in the AT. It's acting up. While my Soarer box is still fine after thousands of hours of solid use. Sometimes I manage to unlearn!
Muirium
User avatar
µ

Unread post25 Feb 2015, 17:47

User avatar
X
Muirium
µ
 
Posts: 22407
Joined: 03 Feb 2013, 10:11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Main keyboard: IBM 4704 Kishsaver
Main mouse: Apple Magic Trackpad
Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
Club member: -
 
This is great to know for those of us who "need" like a dozen of these! Thanks!
XMIT
User avatar
[ XMIT ]

Unread post19 Mar 2015, 03:22

User avatar
X
XMIT
[ XMIT ]
 
Posts: 3118
Joined: 21 Dec 2014, 15:32
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
Main mouse: Logitech Marble Mouse
Favorite switch: XMIT 50g Hall Effect
Club member: 0093
 
I don't mind soldering - kind of enjoy it in fact - so I opted for:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171715861393

s-l500.jpg


5.77 USD each. I just got ten. There are other house projects I want to implement so these won't all run Soarer's Converter or TMK.
XMIT
User avatar
[ XMIT ]

Unread post25 Mar 2015, 16:17

User avatar
X
XMIT
[ XMIT ]
 
Posts: 3118
Joined: 21 Dec 2014, 15:32
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
Main mouse: Logitech Marble Mouse
Favorite switch: XMIT 50g Hall Effect
Club member: 0093
 
I enjoy soldering too. But I always move my head away after each solder, I feel like the fumes are going to give me cancer. :shock:
Redmaus
User avatar
Gotta start somewhere

Unread post25 Mar 2015, 16:24

User avatar
X
Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere
 
Posts: 2249
Joined: 04 Feb 2015, 18:19
Location: Near Dallas, Texas
Main keyboard: ABS M1 with Alps SKCM Orange
Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
Club member: -
 
Yeah. Fortunately I can sit next to an open window with a fan when I do my work. I try to use RoHS unleaded solder when I can. That helps a little bit.
XMIT
User avatar
[ XMIT ]

Unread post25 Mar 2015, 16:26

User avatar
X
XMIT
[ XMIT ]
 
Posts: 3118
Joined: 21 Dec 2014, 15:32
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
Main mouse: Logitech Marble Mouse
Favorite switch: XMIT 50g Hall Effect
Club member: 0093
 
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests