Cherry MX Low Profile

Prelim · 12 Jan 2018, 21:24

fresh news on Cherry...

https://www.cherrymx.de/en/low-profile-rgb.html

thoughts?

Myoth · 12 Jan 2018, 21:32

BEFORE ANYTHING, LET'S ALL AGREE TO CALL THEM LP TO NOT MISSUNDERSTAND EACH OTHER

apart from that these look cool, This Red version will be Linear (a Blue variant which would be Tactile is apparently coming too), I wonder if they will decline it for every Cherry switch (to the extent of the most common ones) and if so how do they compare to their big brothers. I would love a flat and very tactile keyboard with, for exemple, LP Clears, it would make for a good Laptop replacement keyboard !

EDIT : btw here is the source for the blue stemmed tactile one : https://youtu.be/cXfU5PR7F28?t=2m38s

Prelim · 12 Jan 2018, 21:36

mech isn't "old school" anymore... everyone wants laptop keyboards these days, arghhh

/bring the old mechs again!

Myoth · 12 Jan 2018, 21:46

I wasn't saying that they are old and should go away but there is not a lot of little vintage boards, I love the keyboard I'm typing on and god knows it big and heavy, but I'd like to also have something modern and easier to store in my bag, like this...

Findecanor · 13 Jan 2018, 00:50

Stupid name. Only keycap-compatible with Cherry MX, but so are a lot of other switches, including other switches from Cherry such as the low-profile Cherry M8.

I am also calling it Cherry LP. :-þ

Elrick · 13 Jan 2018, 00:57

Prelim wrote: ↑mech isn't "old school" anymore... everyone wants laptop keyboards these days, arghhh

/bring the old mechs again!

It's that the market for mechanical's is expanding DAILY hence the manufacturers aren't stupid to ignore this current situation.

I love LOUD switches in general so having tiny, flat Cherry switches are alright but the blues have to sound LARGE and clicky otherwise I'm still sticking with the current Kailh range of brilliant (noisy) switches.

Daniel Beardsmore · 13 Jan 2018, 01:13

Why on earth is it called "MX"? I guess this is like Mac OS X, where it's stuck at X forever as the version number has itself become a name. I guess "MX" now means "a keyboard switch" instead of denoting a series. I vote for MZ personally.

Myoth · 13 Jan 2018, 01:25

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: ↑Why on earth is it called "MX"? I guess this is like Mac OS X, where it's stuck at X forever as the version number has itself become a name. I guess "MX" now means "a keyboard switch" instead of denoting a series. I vote for MZ personally.

MX has become a brand more than a model of keyswitch :/

Halvar · 13 Jan 2018, 19:06

Cherry has people who actually design switches? That's great news!

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seebart · 14 Jan 2018, 20:25

CHERRY MX Low Profile RGB @ CES 2018!

Halvar · 15 Jan 2018, 15:19

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: ↑Why on earth is it called "MX"? I guess this is like Mac OS X, where it's stuck at X forever as the version number has itself become a name. I guess "MX" now means "a keyboard switch" instead of denoting a series. I vote for MZ personally.

While this is true, I always thought that the X in MX stood for the cross contact switches, and these are still part of the new design.

seebart · 15 Jan 2018, 15:38

Because "Cherry MX" is such a well known product name. In terms promotion etc. Cherry cannot do any better, technically its borderline calling these "MX" but like Havlar said the anything with cross contact switches can then be "MX".

DustGod · 15 Jan 2018, 16:40

Elrick wrote: ↑ It's that the market for mechanical's is expanding DAILY hence the manufacturers aren't stupid to ignore this current situation.

Which is ironic, considering that Cherry managers decided to ignore a lot of stuff so far.
For example, Chinese clones that qualitatively surpass original Cherry MX switches, even though the latter are supposed to be the result of 30+ years of experience in the field.

Daniel Beardsmore · 15 Jan 2018, 22:19

Halvar wrote: ↑While this is true, I always thought that the X in MX stood for the cross contact switches, and these are still part of the new design.

Gold crosspoint goes back at least as far as the mousetrap switches, for which they made a low-current version with sharp contacts for (I assume) higher pressure to offer the best guarantee of passing a small amount of current. Gold crosspoint was then used in the M4/5/6/7 type, M8, M9, M10, M11 and finally MX and ML. I wondered if "X" meant "10", but that was disproved after switches in between M9 and MX were discovered, although M10 isn't known and M11 is extremely rare.

Sadly marketing has triumphed over sense. As for the wiki, I believe that the page for these should be named as Cherry name them — we can't simply make up a random name as that's wrong and confusing.

TuxKey · 16 Jan 2018, 12:44

i have never asked or wanted a low profile switch.
For me thinner or RGB is not a need i associate with a keyboard for me.
As i mentioned in my youtube comment the feel of a switch is key.
Cherry should innovate and improve on that front.

In my case a tactile lighter smoother mx-clear would be real innovation..
in my humble opinion products like "Zealios switches" and "Hako True" + "Hako Clears" are real innovations that matters to me..
Thinner seems to be an obsession for manufactures and RGB well what can i say.. it's pretty and my PBT Ducky mouse has it but i keep it on one color would i buy it without RGB heck yeah.. PBT nice switches , easy to open and service nice dpi functionality just what i need..

so in short.. nice Cherry it's thinner it has colors...

Findecanor · 16 Jan 2018, 14:01

TuxKey wrote: ↑i have never asked or wanted a low profile switch.

If you visit a lot of general PC forums you often see people asking for low-profile gaming keyboards to buy.
Those people might not necessarily want mechanical low-profile keyboards, but I won't blame Cherry, Kailh and {whoever made the Tesoro Gram XS' switch} for getting in on it (What is "TTC" anyway?). As long as you can get NKRO and good response-time, which is easiest when the keys are backed by a PCB.

Myself, I prefer to slouch back on the chair in front of the keyboard and sometimes with my feet up. I have been told that slouching would be better for the back than a bad upright posture. However, for that position to be ergonomic for my arms and shoulders, I can't have a keyboard that is too high above my knees. That is a big reason why I don't use my Kinesis contoured more.

Cherry has said that they had tactile and clicky variants in mind when they designed the low-profile switch. I would expect Brown and maybe Blue (if only to compete with Kailh and TTC?) ... A better Clear has been on my personal wish list as well.

Daniel Beardsmore · 16 Jan 2018, 22:24

TTC is Trantek Electronics Co., Ltd. It's another switch manufacturer.

Findecanor · 16 Jan 2018, 22:45

Thanks. I added a stub to the Wiki so there are no dangling references.

Daniel Beardsmore · 17 Jan 2018, 01:14

I've switched over to "TTC", as it's their brand. Beyond that point lies madness. Only a Chinese speaker would ever be able to make sense out of this tangled mess. Trantek is also TTC, and they seem to be the same TTC but yet at the same time a different TTC, or something. TTC that we know seems to be Huizhou Zhengrui Electronics Co., Ltd. although Google isn't 100% consistent on how it renders 惠州市正牌科电有限公司, and Bing gives me "Huizhou Electronic Co., Ltd."

TuxKey · 17 Jan 2018, 13:06

Findecanor wrote: ↑ If you visit a lot of general PC forums you often see people asking for low-profile gaming keyboards to buy.

Don't know why they would want a low profile keyboard ? looks good ?
But no matter the reason if there is demand

i did not know that..

Findecanor wrote: ↑ Myself, I prefer to slouch back on the chair in front of the keyboard and sometimes with my feet up. I have been told that slouching would be better for the back than a bad upright posture. However, for that position to be ergonomic for my arms and shoulders, I can't have a keyboard that is too high above my knees. That is a big reason why I don't use my Kinesis contoured more.

i'm no stranger to slouching behind my keyboard....

but in my case my arm wrests assist my slouching by moving with me hahaha.. bad behavior i know but feels good....
But i have to admit since i invested in a adjustable desk sit/stand i simply lower the desk ahahha...
But overall i think i understand where your coming from and perhaps the need for low profile..
just yesterday i was telling a friend that my FC660C had the perfect angle and i was worried something like the Tada68 had a to aggressive profile.. i don't know the angle or degree of my FC660C when it's flat on the desk..
He mentioned that his Vortex Core that had no angle felt even better to him. i would much rather have that than an aggressive angle.

btw excuse my eng...doing my best..

andrewjoy · 17 Jan 2018, 17:10

Cherry know they still make ML right ? They must do.

I can see this going into laptops again and thats not a bad thing.