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by bhtooefr
05 Feb 2022, 23:40
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: M-like?
Replies: 39
Views: 9940

Re: M-like?

Well, the F122 aficionados kept quiet about that! I’ve never had one (only XT, AT and Kishsaver*) so I can’t speak from first hand experience of a Model F that size. Essentially, the Model F only supports its bottom plate at the front and rear edges, IIRC. So, the 122 has a lot more depth unsupport...
by bhtooefr
05 Feb 2022, 22:59
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: M-like?
Replies: 39
Views: 9940

Re: M-like?

One thing I'll note about the 122s... they're really stretching the Model F mechanical design beyond what it was really meant to do, and key feel (especially near the center) is degraded unless you do a bolt mod (which IIRC is significantly more involved and riskier than it is on a Model M). Additio...
by bhtooefr
05 Feb 2022, 22:52
Forum: Deskthority talk
Topic: Future of DT
Replies: 440
Views: 6985019

Re: Future of DT

So, sounds like we've got moderation now, finally... but what does the ownership/funding status of the forum look like? Or the back-end maintenance?
by bhtooefr
23 Dec 2020, 03:35
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: KFConsole
Replies: 0
Views: 4290

KFConsole

by bhtooefr
21 May 2020, 16:12
Forum: Reviews
Topic: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped
Replies: 21
Views: 32476

Re: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped

So one update: battery life is dreadful. Like 3-4 days in my usage pattern dreadful. (I get like 2-3 weeks out of a charge on a ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard in the same usage pattern.) However, not a huge deal to just slam another couple Eneloops in, and throw the old ones on the charger. The...
by bhtooefr
17 May 2020, 01:16
Forum: News
Topic: Verge is laughably clueless on Keyboards
Replies: 24
Views: 36402

Re: Verge is laughably clueless on Keyboards

And beam springs were a ruthless cost-cutting exercise on the Selectric I/O, inferior to both the Selectric I/O that preceded them, and the Model F that succeeded them. 8-)
by bhtooefr
16 May 2020, 10:59
Forum: Reviews
Topic: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped
Replies: 21
Views: 32476

Re: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped

Hmm, maybe I can somehow add material to a MX Low Profile Red's slider to make a sort of... jury-rigged MX Low Profile Ergo Clear?

I'm guessing the sliders themselves are ABS? Edit: Looks like some type of POM is what Cherry uses. Still a thermoplastic, but it'll need hotter. Hmm.
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 18:59
Forum: Reviews
Topic: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped
Replies: 21
Views: 32476

Re: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped

AFAICT, MX Low Profile only exists in Red and Silver, and has a proprietary pinout so you can't replace it with anything else.
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 17:51
Forum: News
Topic: Verge is laughably clueless on Keyboards
Replies: 24
Views: 36402

Re: Verge is laughably clueless on Keyboards

To be fair, the gold standard is also something that people ascribe far too much value to.
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 17:43
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: New keyboard Italian 105 ISO layout
Replies: 20
Views: 6487

Re: New keyboard Italian 105 ISO layout

Also, to answer your question as for why you like your ThinkPad's keyboard... for a short-travel rubber dome , IBM and Lenovo have historically done a good job at specifying rubber domes that have a comparatively crisp buckling response, so they've felt less mushy than some of their competition. (Th...
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 17:38
Forum: Reviews
Topic: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped
Replies: 21
Views: 32476

Re: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped

Yeah, whereas I skipped all of the various enhanced MX clones designs because... IIRC they were mostly trying to be smoother linears? Whereas I'd rather use rubber domes than linears. (As evidenced by my attempts to actually put a rubber dome of sorts around the linear mouse switches on this board.)
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 15:57
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: When did you first start appreciating keyboards?
Replies: 29
Views: 7476

Re: When did you first start appreciating keyboards?

I would've experienced good keyboards for the first time in the early 1990s, I'd guess. The first computer I used was in 1991, and was an Apple //c, but it was the launch version with the Apple Hairpin Spring switches, the kind of switch that makes you run screaming for rubber domes. The first actua...
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 14:58
Forum: Reviews
Topic: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped
Replies: 21
Views: 32476

Re: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped

I think to get it from NovelKeys you'd have to get both the Standard and Custom sample packs, and you'd get a bunch of more straight MX clone stuff you don't need too, and you wouldn't get the Crystal (slightly heavier) switches either: https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-sampl...
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 14:18
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: New keyboard Italian 105 ISO layout
Replies: 20
Views: 6487

Re: New keyboard Italian 105 ISO layout

Is there anything like that? The ThinkPad Compact USB Keyboard exists: https://www.lenovo.com/it/it/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-Italy/p/0B47207 I just last night stopped daily driving the (now discontinued, in favor of the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II) Bluetoot...
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 13:41
Forum: Reviews
Topic: TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped
Replies: 21
Views: 32476

TEX Shinobi or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Something Cherry MX-Shaped

Some of the older members here probably remember that I used to be extremely active, but haven't seen me post much for quite a long time. That's, ultimately, because I didn't think the features I wanted in a high-end keyboard - three-button TrackPoint, wireless, and either Alps or buckling spring sw...
by bhtooefr
15 May 2020, 11:35
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Matias TactilePro v5?
Replies: 6
Views: 2889

Re: Matias TactilePro v5?

The low-profile switch thing: I'm not sure if you can make an ALPS-based switch that preserves the attributes we like in a short throw format. I'm also a little skeptical as to whether the OEM wins are really forthcoming for that sort of design. There are a few novelty laptops with MX switches in t...
by bhtooefr
21 Aug 2019, 13:44
Forum: Deskthority talk
Topic: The wiki doesn't appear on internet searches
Replies: 12
Views: 12518

Re: The wiki doesn't appear on internet searches

I wonder if the Google Search Console says anything useful...
by bhtooefr
19 Aug 2019, 13:03
Forum: Other external
Topic: Great/Interesting Finds
Replies: 26261
Views: 6032859

Re: Great/Interesting Finds

Tenkeyless would actually require a major design change due to the controller... Also, $25 may not get you dye-sub PBT. IDK how much that'd cost in quantity. (And, with black keyboards being more popular, dye-sub wouldn't necessarily work anyway.) But let's face it, even pad printed ABS, it'd still ...
by bhtooefr
19 Aug 2019, 12:40
Forum: Other external
Topic: Great/Interesting Finds
Replies: 26261
Views: 6032859

Re: Great/Interesting Finds

Of course... buckling spring or rubber dome M2? There is a difference, after all. And the buckling spring M2 is honestly a keyboard that impresses me a lot. It's not a Model M, but it's damn close, and it's incredibly well cost-optimized. I suspect a Chinese company could take the design as-is, repl...
by bhtooefr
18 Aug 2019, 18:56
Forum: Deskthority talk
Topic: The wiki doesn't appear on internet searches
Replies: 12
Views: 12518

Re: The wiki doesn't appear on internet searches

I'd venture a guess that nothing with phpBB would be affecting the wiki, as that's a separate software package (MediaWiki).

Doesn't look like there's any robots.txt being served by the forum, either...
by bhtooefr
17 Aug 2019, 15:18
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Unpopular opinions thread
Replies: 456
Views: 282200

Re: Unpopular opinions thread

...I grew up with a 1.5 U Delete key where Backspace is located on modern keyboards (truncated ANSI layout), but it was an Apple //c. What this means is... early Apple IIs didn't have any dedicated destructive backspace key. Instead, they had left and right arrows, and everything before about 1983 (...
by bhtooefr
16 Aug 2019, 14:59
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: What is your ideal switch for a laptop keyboard?
Replies: 7
Views: 2501

Re: What is your ideal switch for a laptop keyboard?

Part of what made old laptops so chunky, as well, was that a lot of thick components were underneath the keyboard. Note how those PowerBooks had a whole floppy drive underneath the keyboard. Modern designs tend to avoid putting anything thick underneath the keyboard - batteries and hard drives are t...
by bhtooefr
11 Dec 2016, 00:47
Forum: Results
Topic: Best keyswitch
Replies: 7
Views: 14690

That's the thing, it's not an accessible switch. (And, I prefer capacitive buckling spring over it - beam spring is smoother, more refined, but I prefer more tactility in my switches.)
by bhtooefr
08 Dec 2016, 02:50
Forum: Final vote
Topic: The Deskthority
Replies: 136
Views: 182557

Except, I'd argue that a lot of people's second or third... or even sixth or seventh choices... are what's available in the second round poll to win.

Ranked choice voting would reduce the number of rounds required - you could just go straight from nominations to the poll.
by bhtooefr
08 Dec 2016, 01:14
Forum: Final vote
Topic: The Deskthority
Replies: 136
Views: 182557

I'd be cool with ranked choice, if there's a good way to do it.
by bhtooefr
07 Dec 2016, 06:14
Forum: Final vote
Topic: The Deskthority
Replies: 136
Views: 182557

Yeah, I'm not saying he shouldn't be eligible - if the community (and this has been opened up to the greater community) wants him to get the wingnut, he should get the wingnut.

I'm more explaining why that animosity exists.
by bhtooefr
07 Dec 2016, 06:11
Forum: Final vote
Topic: Best "other" input device
Replies: 14
Views: 20392

I might've nominated the Surface Dial, but I'm going for the Planet 6.

Because, I mean, goddamn is that thing beautiful. And, it's also a pointing device.
by bhtooefr
07 Dec 2016, 05:58
Forum: Final vote
Topic: The *Ping*
Replies: 19
Views: 23595

To be fair, Lenovo's lost their way almost entirely.

ThinkPad engineering is in the toilet, they've shipped freaking malware, group buys are sometimes faster at shipping product...

Nobody's following Lenovo except for maybe the Yoga hinge.
by bhtooefr
07 Dec 2016, 05:54
Forum: Final vote
Topic: The Deskthority
Replies: 136
Views: 182557

In this case, the animosity's towards ripster (we're so informal we can't stay on a topic for five posts, being informal is not something that we can knock another community for), and the damage he did to the English language keyboard community when he wasn't banned from literally every place that w...
by bhtooefr
27 Nov 2016, 01:36
Forum: Vote for nominees
Topic: The *Ping*
Replies: 15
Views: 37936

And I voted for the M2 (among other things like KFC products), because while I'm actually impressed by the level of cost engineering, the damn things are unreliable, and I've got one where the matrix is messing up badly...

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