DT Update Log and TODO

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

13 Jun 2019, 08:18

The spy appears to not include posts made in the "Other languages" section.

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derzemel

20 Jun 2019, 08:55

I hope that this is a good place to report a potential future Chrome on Android bug (or feature - depending on how you see it): if the experimental option dark web contents is activated on Chrome Android, some images from threads and most likely all the black and white headers are colour flipped. Also all other coloured elements on the pages are affected in one way or another

I know that the dark web contents option is experimental but it might be worth to pay attention to it.

Ok so here are the details: to activate the dark mode on Android, in Chrome, I entered chrome://flags in the address bar, searched for dark mode in the search box and activated the options Android Chrome UI dark mode and Android web contents dark mode

Here are the results for Deskthority:

black and white colour flipped headers:
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and
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Here is the home page with a colour header, with the other 2 images, one colour flipped, and the other one not:
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The behaviour is not consistent though, as I refreshed the home page and the 2 images are displayed correctly:
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kbdfr
The Tiproman

22 Jul 2019, 07:25

Obviously the spy function omits posts in the "Other languages" section.
I think it should not.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

29 Jul 2019, 15:27

There seems to be no way to actually write and send an email to a member.
Or can the reason be related to my Firefox settings?
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matt3o
-[°_°]-

29 Jul 2019, 16:00

kbdfr wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 15:27
There seems to be no way to actually write and send an email to a member.
Or can the reason be related to my Firefox settings?
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I had to do that because of fucking spammers

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Muirium
µ

29 Jul 2019, 16:35

I’m guessing their IP addresses are evilly randomised? They’re winning the arms race!

The spam here seems a bit low tech, and certainly low intensity, to be actual bots. But what would I know. It just looks more like one guy to me. A post an hour or so, presumably working on dozens of forums.

listofoptions

29 Jul 2019, 21:11

even if their IP's are randomized, detecting them should be as "simple" as a well trained statistical model. they make some pretty obvious patterns. im pretty sure they're also not fully automated.

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

29 Jul 2019, 22:28

Yeah the spammers are definitely getting annoying. Nice to look at the forum spy and see a bunch of chinese or russian bullshit characters spammed relentlessly.

I love how even on a mechanical keyboard forum you can't be free of spammers, they have to ruin everything.

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Muirium
µ

29 Jul 2019, 23:49

Like winkeyless keyboards: we need more mods.

I’ll get my coat.

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snacksthecat
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29 Jul 2019, 23:56

listofoptions wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 21:11
im pretty sure they're also not fully automated
Um yeah bro, spamming is an art.

Have some respect!

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Muirium
µ

30 Jul 2019, 00:28

Spamming is a mechanical Turk. And so too, sadly, is deleting them!

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

30 Jul 2019, 13:41

listofoptions wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 21:11
even if their IP's are randomized, detecting them should be as "simple" as a well trained statistical model. they make some pretty obvious patterns. im pretty sure they're also not fully automated.
So I made a simulation using a very famous black list. If I had to ban by IP what the blacklist says is spam, I would also ban some of our legit users. I did a quick test by simply performing a search on the registered users' IPs. Even if the list were 100% fail-safe there would be no plugin for phpbb, and if there is, it's outdated, buggy and unmaintaned.

IP ban can be effective if performed manually and anyway it won't last more than 24 hours.

there's nothing simple, automated or obvious in anti-spam.

andrewjoy

30 Jul 2019, 17:09

Did we turn off new user authorisation ?

listofoptions

30 Jul 2019, 22:31

matt3o wrote:
30 Jul 2019, 13:41
listofoptions wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 21:11
even if their IP's are randomized, detecting them should be as "simple" as a well trained statistical model. they make some pretty obvious patterns. im pretty sure they're also not fully automated.
So I made a simulation using a very famous black list. If I had to ban by IP what the blacklist says is spam, I would also ban some of our legit users. I did a quick test by simply performing a search on the registered users' IPs. Even if the list were 100% fail-safe there would be no plugin for phpbb, and if there is, it's outdated, buggy and unmaintaned.

IP ban can be effective if performed manually and anyway it won't last more than 24 hours.

there's nothing simple, automated or obvious in anti-spam.
I was more referring to some kind of content based detection, like whats commonly used for email detection (iirc hidden markov model?) but i guess a short term IP ban, and maybe just make it so that new users have to have their posts approved (though it looks like they get posted from the user point of view)

xxhellfirexx

31 Jul 2019, 07:22

Even simpler, can't there be a minimum post limit before users can include links or text that is formatted like a link?

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

31 Jul 2019, 08:24

listofoptions wrote:
30 Jul 2019, 22:31
maybe just make it so that new users have to have their posts approved (though it looks like they get posted from the user point of view)
we tried, it's a very tedious and time consuming task that mostly damages legit users that have to wait days before being approved.
xxhellfirexx wrote:
31 Jul 2019, 07:22
Even simpler, can't there be a minimum post limit before users can include links or text that is formatted like a link?
that can't be done on the current software

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photekq
Cherry Picker

31 Jul 2019, 10:53

Do you think anything could be done on the registration side of things to deter bots?

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elecplus

31 Jul 2019, 11:16

Maybe if they had to answer a keyboard related question, like how many keys were on a US XT keyboard? Something easily researched if they do not know.

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matt3o
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31 Jul 2019, 11:20

photekq wrote:
31 Jul 2019, 10:53
Do you think anything could be done on the registration side of things to deter bots?
yes, but hardly with phpbb
elecplus wrote:
31 Jul 2019, 11:16
Maybe if they had to answer a keyboard related question, like how many keys were on a US XT keyboard? Something easily researched if they do not know.
we already have that

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Muirium
µ

31 Jul 2019, 13:51

That particular question would have been enough to stop me registering in the first place. “What’s a USXT keyboard?” Searching the internet would all too likely lead me the wrong direction. Give it 60 seconds and I’d give up, forever.

My shitty, uneducated and unsolicited opinion here is we need more people on this. We could enable new user first post moderation (including sneaky spammers who go wild soon thereafter) if we had many more moderators. It’s a matter of manpower.

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HzFaq

31 Jul 2019, 14:37

Whilst I'm not posting much these days I am on the forums every fews hours, happy to help out with moderating spammers if needed.

Findecanor

31 Jul 2019, 14:58

I would love to have moderator privileges. I would totally not abuse it ...

andrewjoy

31 Jul 2019, 18:00

Findecanor wrote:
31 Jul 2019, 14:58
I would love to have moderator privileges. I would totally not abuse it ...
You dont know how tempting it is to randomly edit Mu's posts and put English flags all over them :D

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photekq
Cherry Picker

01 Aug 2019, 11:11

Also happy to help with moderating. I check here very frequently (every 15-30 minutes).

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Muirium
µ

01 Aug 2019, 11:20

C’mon, Matteo. Your new mod team is ready!

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As the ancient wisdom goes: a problem shared is a problem more people have.

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

01 Aug 2019, 11:56

we have a new mod

PS: thanks everyone, we picked a mod on the other side of the ocean to have the 24h covered. we'll add more mods if needed

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Muirium
µ

01 Aug 2019, 12:10

Hope they like the mellow taste of 24 hour Spam!

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mr_a500

01 Aug 2019, 14:33

Muirium wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:20
C’mon, Matteo. Your new mod team is ready!

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Compgeke

01 Aug 2019, 20:50

matt3o wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 11:56
we have a new mod

PS: thanks everyone, we picked a mod on the other side of the ocean to have the 24h covered. we'll add more mods if needed
Other side of the ocean? You mean the correct side! finally some help

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Muirium
µ

01 Aug 2019, 20:55

Thanks Compgeke. I couldn't count if I tried the number of times I've hit the report button on spammy posts and you've followed up, zapping the buggers. Appreciated.

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