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Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 19:49
by soyuz
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 20:16
by webwit
soyuz wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:49
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.
So I get an email "You got a message on Discord". I click on it, goes to Play Store to install Discord which I didn't have on my phone for years now, and then I read this. :lol: Is that you? What a blow, man. I hope you feel better now. ;)

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Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 21:37
by Muirium
Ouch! :D
headphone_jack wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:47
Here's hoping the site falls under community control again.
Well, it's likely to *fall* off the face of the earth unless we club together and actively do something about it…

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 00:10
by webwit
It's as likely to fall of the earth like when you're selling a house and then decide what the hell I'll just demolish it. It doesn't make any sense.

Whatever you think of OneCommerce they never did any evil to Deskthority and are looking for a good buyer instead of tossing it.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 01:13
by VR20X6
webwit wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 00:10
It's as likely to fall of the earth like when you're selling a house and then decide what the hell I'll just demolish it. It doesn't make any sense.

Whatever you think of OneCommerce they never did any evil to Deskthority and are looking for a good buyer instead of tossing it.
I'm sure they're looking for just as good of a buyer as you did. And by "good buyer" I mean "whoever is the highest bidder".

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 01:56
by wobbled
soyuz wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:49
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.
I don’t think anyone wants to buy a discord server lmao, that’s not even relevant to this discussion. It always seems too overly moderated and isn’t a true representation of this forum (imo)

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 02:22
by soyuz
wobbled wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 01:56
soyuz wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:49
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.
I don’t think anyone wants to buy a discord server lmao, that’s not even relevant to this discussion. It always seems too overly moderated and isn’t a true representation of this forum (imo)
You say that but the discord was part of the sale to OneCommerce, they just forfeited it by being AFK for over a year.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 02:45
by wobbled
soyuz wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 02:22
wobbled wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 01:56
soyuz wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:49
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.
I don’t think anyone wants to buy a discord server lmao, that’s not even relevant to this discussion. It always seems too overly moderated and isn’t a true representation of this forum (imo)
You say that but the discord was part of the sale to OneCommerce, they just forfeited it by being AFK for over a year.
Maybe so, but the value of DT is the forum but more so the wiki. The discord server is what I would turn to if the forum finally went down, but to each their own.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 03:22
by Rayndalf
Sometimes people join the Discord asking about why forum registration doesn't work (with Gmail domains). That's been a long running problem I'd really like to see fixed.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 09:09
by soyuz
wobbled wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 02:45
soyuz wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 02:22
wobbled wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 01:56

I don’t think anyone wants to buy a discord server lmao, that’s not even relevant to this discussion. It always seems too overly moderated and isn’t a true representation of this forum (imo)
You say that but the discord was part of the sale to OneCommerce, they just forfeited it by being AFK for over a year.
Maybe so, but the value of DT is the forum but more so the wiki. The discord server is what I would turn to if the forum finally went down, but to each their own.
Either way it's important for people to not sell what they don't have. OneCommerce appear to be totally unaware that they lost control of the Discord so would likely still count this as a part of any future sale.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 12:30
by depletedvespene
soyuz wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:49
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.
I don't think the "DT" entity has ever "owned" the "associated" Discord server in the first place. A case could be for the Telegram group, which was explicitly advertised as the "official TG channel"... but it lost that status long ago, and then lost the name as well, so it should be off limits for a potential sale, too.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 12:49
by tinnie
depletedvespene wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 12:30
soyuz wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 19:49
Full disclosure for whoever is potentially thinking of paying onecommerce, they haven't owned the DT Discord for some time and you wouldn't be getting it as part of the deal. (In actuality the Discord was never able to be sold in the first place, as selling Discord servers is against their TOS)

DT Discord is currently community-owned.
I don't think the "DT" entity has ever "owned" the "associated" Discord server in the first place. A case could be for the Telegram group, which was explicitly advertised as the "official TG channel"... but it lost that status long ago, and then lost the name as well, so it should be off limits for a potential sale, too.
Miguel do you still remember you actively harrassed women there?

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 13:13
by depletedvespene
tinnie wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 12:49
Miguel do you still remember you actively harrassed women there?
Knock your garbage off, you filthy liar. SHAME ON YOU.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 13:31
by tinnie
depletedvespene wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 13:13
tinnie wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 12:49
Miguel do you still remember you actively harrassed women there?
Knock your garbage off, you filthy liar. SHAME ON YOU.
What a shame 👍

(This post edited by mods, eliminated doxxing contents).

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 13:33
by depletedvespene
TINNIE, KNOCK YOUR CRAP OFF. You know damn well that was not harassment, while yours (against me and others) IS. Defaming me inside your toxic TG channel is one thing, but bringing it elsewhere is something else. You deserve to be banned for this.

KNOCK YOUR CRAP OFF AND STOP DERAILING THREADS HERE.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 13:58
by tinnie
depletedvespene wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 13:33
TINNIE, KNOCK YOUR CRAP OFF. You know damn well that was not harassment, while yours (against me and others) IS. Defaming me inside your toxic TG channel is one thing, but bringing it elsewhere is something else. You deserve to be banned for this.

KNOCK YOUR CRAP OFF AND STOP DERAILING THREADS HERE.
Stop playing the victim card.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 13:59
by depletedvespene
KNOCK YOUR CRAP OFF.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 16:34
by jae-3soteric
Interesting to see this pop back up…

I’m under no NDA so here is what I offered before. I’d be happy to pick up Deskthority for a nominal amount with the intentions of keeping the site alive and going as outlined in the discussion chain from a couple of years ago with Webwit.

Sadly I don’t think the site is worth what it once was based on current activity so it would be a nominal offer of a token amount to provide the community and site the opportunity to continue rather than fade and die; which is what will likely happen if no buyer is found.

I’d make some investment available each year for its continued preservation as I offered before but it’s likely that the current owners would not be interested in that option based on interactions I’ve seen.

Also you lot don’t make it an attractive purchase when you are pointing fingers about shitty behaviour fyi.


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https://imgur.com/a/d5acehw

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 17:54
by TheInverseKey
I have to agree with @jae-3soteric that the site has had a lot less traffic.

Now there are even other wikis that do certain brands of keyboards better than Deskthority. However, some information here is still valuable for the community.

Keeping Deskthority alive would be just to preserve history and not much more than that. The discord server that is separate from the site also has a lot more traffic with new users compared to the site.

Really to breathe new life into a forum today takes a lot of effort and money. Not to mention a dedicated team so that users are actually able to join and use the site... Aka gmail accounts...(It's been over 3 years since this broke) and countless other issues with the backed of the site.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 18:47
by webwit
@jae-3soteric Mate, did you post a private message conversation on DT/imgur? Wow.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 19:54
by TheInverseKey
webwit wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 18:47
@jae-3soteric Mate, did you post a private message conversation on DT/imgur? Wow.
Well, I don't condone publishing DMs/private messages, I think that since you got multiple offers from community members at the initial sale of Deskthority and went with the biggest offer really shows what was the real priority...

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 20:39
by webwit
Makes it only worse. You don't like someone any longer for whatever reason? Post their PM's! Let this be a warning for everyone who deals with jae-3soteric. Good thing I didn't sell to him.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 20:46
by alas
webwit wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 20:39
Makes it only worse. You don't like someone any longer for whatever reason? Post their PM's! Let this be a warning for everyone who deals with jae-3soteric. Good thing I didn't sell to him.
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Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 21:03
by TheInverseKey
webwit wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 20:39
Makes it only worse. You don't like someone any longer for whatever reason? Post their PM's! Let this be a warning for everyone who deals with jae-3soteric. Good thing I didn't sell to him.
It's not that they dislike you but rather calling you out on your own hypocrisy. You stated when DT was up for sale the first time it would go to a member in the community clearly that never happened...

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 21:33
by webwit
You stated when DT was up for sale the first time it would go to a member in the community.
I did not.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 21:38
by TheInverseKey
webwit wrote:
01 Mar 2021, 17:36
Relax, there's plenty of interest, and none of them is stupid - they want DT for its vibe and what it is and don't want to ruin that, and know exactly what would break it.
Well, it's ruined congrats....


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Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 22:25
by webwit
That is not a statement it would go to a member in the community.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 01:20
by Muirium
A few posts before that:
Muirium wrote:
28 Feb 2021, 19:05
All very true. There’s a general worry, I suppose, that a bad owner could wreck the joint with ads and paid content. But I’d worry more about plain old indifference. That’s when things are “sunset”, to use the Silicon Valley euphemism for killed.
Cassandra much? :roll:

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 02:13
by wobbled
webwit wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 22:25
That is not a statement it would go to a member in the community.
The main point being you could have sold to the highest bidder who was also a DT member, not just some asset acquiring startup with too much money to throw around.
Your overall greed is directly responsible for this, but on the contrary, you managed the site by yourself for a very long period of time and any attempt to share out a managing role was met with silence, so I get why you sold it… You just sold it to the wrong person and I can’t see how you can deny that.

Re: The mystery of DT's new owner - SOLVED

Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 09:33
by ifohancroft
I'd love to buy it but unfortunately I can't afford it.
I just hope whoever does, doesn't migrate it to a Discourse type of platform *gagging noises* or migrate the wiki to some shitty third world wiki software attempt.