Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 08:05
His insight would sure be useful! I hope he isn't a rude personkbdfr wrote: ↑I have invited the eBay seller to take part in the discussion.
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His insight would sure be useful! I hope he isn't a rude personkbdfr wrote: ↑I have invited the eBay seller to take part in the discussion.
oh... shit...kbdfr wrote: ↑I have invited the eBay seller to take part in the discussion.
derzemel wrote: ↑oh... shit...kbdfr wrote: ↑I have invited the eBay seller to take part in the discussion.
I really didn't want this discussion to spiral down like this and now I feel very bad for opening this can of worms.
I now understand the seller's position and I do not blame him/her.
I was the one at fault here as I wasn't aware of the how many untrustworthy buyers are on ebay and how huge the scam problem is. I also was convinced that sellers are at least able to see the delivery country of a buyer/bidder, but it seems that is not the case as well.
I told him it should be a factual discussion, even if sometimes opinions are expressed rather pointedly
I told him you started quite heavily but then apologized.
You're still ignoring/unaware of key information. Buyers cannot force sellers to lose their seller protections or push them into sales that may be fraud. PayPal requires real time online tracking, with real time upload of recipients signature on high value items. Without it the seller has zero protection against INR fraud. They also require that packages only be sent to verified addresses, if not the seller protection is also void.davkol wrote: ↑A proxy! The horror!
…and if it's still in the same city, there's certainly no way anyone could ever possibly show up in person.
No he isn't, he doesn't have to explain to buyers their mistakes or how they should use ebay or explain how he has been annoyed or inconvenienced. It's not his problem but it is his time and money that's being wasted.davkol wrote: ↑The seller is still an asshole, who doesn't provide any explanation whatsoever, unless omitted by OP.
Don't bother man. Davkol can form inferences and deductions just about as well a low-functioning autistic individual.IanM wrote: ↑You're still ignoring/unaware of key information. Buyers cannot force sellers to lose their seller protections or push them into sales that may be fraud. PayPal requires real time online tracking, with real time upload of recipients signature on high value items. Without it the seller has zero protection against INR fraud. They also require that packages only be sent to verified addresses, if not the seller protection is also void.davkol wrote: ↑A proxy! The horror!
…and if it's still in the same city, there's certainly no way anyone could ever possibly show up in person.
Nobody is travelling from one country to another, buying or renting a property and verifying the new address on their paypal account within hours or a couple of days, it really looks like a hacked account and a scam.
Sellers do not always like items to be collected either, it can be inconvenient or an invasion of privacy/personal space. If the listing didn't specify collection in person it's not an option. If collection is an option the seller is allowed to insist (put terms in the listing) that it be in person, not a courier and that payment must be cash, not paypal. If the buyer insists on using paypal then the seller is allowed to insist on paid, tracked postage at extra cost or cancel the sale without penalty (and the buyer maybe gets a policy breach for trying to dictate terms)
No he isn't, he doesn't have to explain to buyers their mistakes or how they should use ebay or explain how he has been annoyed or inconvenienced. It's not his problem but it is his time and money that's being wasted.davkol wrote: ↑The seller is still an asshole, who doesn't provide any explanation whatsoever, unless omitted by OP.
Lets stay civil here...davkol wrote: ↑Maybe you should stop wasting time and start another bunch of threads like
- Is America the best country in the world?
- Do you use your phone in the bathroom?
- Got 10 eBay bucks ... What should I buy
Ah ok. I just don't want to see DT threads end up like some of the ones I have seen on reddit and GH...davkol wrote: ↑Nah, it's just funny, when a troll tries to call out someone for trolling^Wposting what's in their signature (i.e., Devil's Advocate in my case, although I'm rather serious here).
Life is too short. Move on.seebart wrote: ↑ eBay's platform, eBay's rules. Simple as that.
Thank you!kbdfr wrote: ↑I got an answer from the seller, who prefers not to post here and expresses disgust about some of the things posted in this thread.
Regarding the facts themselves, he says (my translation, so not using the quoting feature):I am pleased to see that not only demerzel had already revised his former views, but also particularly a special post by another poster has now been edited.
- "How does this eBay buyer look like?
1. Registered on eBay since approx. Jan. 2015. Zero feedback.
2. Buyer has already changed his name.
3. Member on eBay USA.
4. Own place of residence Romania.
5. Shipping address suddenly changed from Bucharest to Berlin.
All this taken together does not precisely inspire optimism.
[Seller] reported this to the eBay hotline and was advised to block the buyer."
So in the end, it clearly appears the whole story was just everyday eBay business.
You are a fan of Asimov's Foundation series, right?
I want to review the points above and maybe some of the more ebay experienced members can help me a bit:kbdfr wrote: ↑ Regarding the facts themselves, he says (my translation, so not using the quoting feature):
- "How does this eBay buyer look like?
1. Registered on eBay since approx. Jan. 2015. Zero feedback.
2. Buyer has already changed his name.
3. Member on eBay USA.
4. Own place of residence Romania.
5. Shipping address suddenly changed from Bucharest to Berlin.
All this taken together does not precisely inspire optimism.
[Seller] reported this to the eBay hotline and was advised to block the buyer."