IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

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kps

03 Jun 2021, 16:32

Palatino wrote:
03 Jun 2021, 11:22
Can anyone identify this keyboard? Qwertz, I think Swiss, interesting layout with an isolated key in the bottom left corner.
Victor Grid 386PX, aka Compaq SLT/386

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vict ... 0E01A).jpg

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Palatino

03 Jun 2021, 16:48

Nice one! Thank you. Looks like Alps switches maybe? I have a chunky old Zenith laptop like this with very nice-sounding white Alps. The difference is on mine, the keyboard isn't detachable. Now I'm even sorrier I missed these!

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Polecat

05 Jun 2021, 04:56

Ok, I know this says it's a Monterey K207, but what *is* a Monterey K207? Google, wiki, DT search all show nothing. I've been playing with Montereys for thirty years and I've never seen one before.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274822682226

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thefarside

05 Jun 2021, 17:26

Polecat wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 04:56
Ok, I know this says it's a Monterey K207, but what *is* a Monterey K207? Google, wiki, DT search all show nothing. I've been playing with Montereys for thirty years and I've never seen one before.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274822682226
I was also curious about this and couldn’t find anything about it. The switch doesn’t resemble anything I’ve seen before:
K207 Key removed
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HC514

05 Jun 2021, 18:43

It's either this or a very close imitation.

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Polecat

05 Jun 2021, 19:34

Yikes, I have nightmares about things like that. Thanks for the photo and ID info!

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hellothere

07 Jun 2021, 23:32

HC514 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 18:43
It's either this or a very close imitation.
From viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11674&start=
Chyros wrote:
30 Sep 2015, 13:33
Oh no! That looks just like Amstrad spring over membrane! In that case, stay the fuck away! XD

al.c

08 Jun 2021, 18:51

hey,

can someone tell me what these switches are?

https://imgur.com/a/bEtOzXu

the keyboard comes from a olivetti typewriter with german layout. i found pretty much nothing about this model. the switches feel/sound really nice and have a soft click on them. it's been a little while since i've converted my last keyboard, but this might just be my next challenge :) anyways, i'd appreciate if someone could tell me what i found here..

thanks!

edit. solved! chyros to the rescue :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUSCkm9dm1k
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-Space-NATO-

08 Jun 2021, 20:25

olivetti snap action?

al.c

08 Jun 2021, 21:21

-Space-NATO- wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 20:25
olivetti snap action?
nope, don't think so, the sliders don't look the same. unless there are different versions, but the caps wouldn't fit either.. hmm..

Urbi

09 Jun 2021, 18:53

Can someone identify this switch type?

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SunshineRag_DT

09 Jun 2021, 21:10

The mounting is Micro Switch "like" but have never seen a spring mechanism or slider like that. Do you have an ID on the keyboard itself or wider keyboard pics?

Urbi

10 Jun 2021, 13:50

It is a Goupil Compact Keyboard (1800-Layout) with Azerty-Layout. It is made in Germany and in as new condition.

It looks exactly like the Compact Cherry-Goupils in the Wiki.

ZeFritz

10 Jun 2021, 14:40

Urbi wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 13:50
It is a Goupil Compact Keyboard (1800-Layout) with Azerty-Layout. It is made in Germany and in as new condition.

It looks exactly like the Compact Cherry-Goupils in the Wiki.
But the wiki says „Cherry MX“ and the switch doesn’t look even remotely like Cherry MX.

Urbi

10 Jun 2021, 15:14

Yes. I ment the overall appearance. I will upload a full photo later (probably tonight).

I did some research prior to buying it and all sources I had said that the Compact Goupils only came with MX switches (some of the full size were G81s but also Cherry though). That's what I expected get to be honest so when I unboxed it yesterday it wasn't a pleasant surprise to be honest. :/

Also: What companies other than GMK and Cherry built keyboards in Germany in the 1980s/1990s?

ZeFritz

10 Jun 2021, 15:32

Urbi wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 15:14
Yes. I ment the overall appearance. I will upload a full photo later (probably tonight).

I did some research prior to buying it and all sources I had said that the Compact Goupils only came with MX switches (some of the full size were G81s but also Cherry though). That's what I expected get to be honest so when I unboxed it yesterday it wasn't a pleasant surprise to be honest. :/

Also: What companies other than GMK and Cherry built keyboards in Germany in the 1980s/1990s?
Yes, the overall look is clearly Goupil, when I look at the posted picture and the wiki.
As for the companies, there is also RAFI, but neither the case or the switch looks like RAFI.
And Siemens fits also in this time frame, but the look of case and switch appear to be Siemens-style, either.
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Myoth

10 Jun 2021, 15:32

Urbi wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 13:50
It is a Goupil Compact Keyboard (1800-Layout) with Azerty-Layout. It is made in Germany and in as new condition.

It looks exactly like the Compact Cherry-Goupils in the Wiki.
it doesn't, the Goupil badge is at the top while the Cherry ones have the logo between the function cluster and the main cluster.

as far as what it actually is, I'm not sure, but there is a thread hanging around with a lot more pictures. I'm currently posting from my phone so I can't provide it for you.

kelvinhall05

10 Jun 2021, 15:43

Urbi wrote:
09 Jun 2021, 18:53
Can someone identify this switch type?

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External return spring(s) scream foam and foil to me

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

10 Jun 2021, 15:58

Myoth wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 15:32
Urbi wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 13:50
It is a Goupil Compact Keyboard (1800-Layout) with Azerty-Layout. It is made in Germany and in as new condition.

It looks exactly like the Compact Cherry-Goupils in the Wiki.
it doesn't, the Goupil badge is at the top while the Cherry ones have the logo between the function cluster and the main cluster.

as far as what it actually is, I'm not sure, but there is a thread hanging around with a lot more pictures. I'm currently posting from my phone so I can't provide it for you.
Here's the thread, links to pics in the first post:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25593

coolrainbow20

11 Jun 2021, 15:56

Brot wrote:
15 May 2021, 10:42
Yes it's the one from Ricardo :) If you decide to buy it, I would be really interested to hear more about it, but I think I won't buy it. I just realized that it is declared as a Microsoft keyboard, but I don't think I have ever seen such a keyboard by Microsoft.
Here I made a video about that Keyboard: https://youtu.be/hF1vDExbHYU
Better be watching it at 2x speed if you don't want to waste like half an hour of your time, because I tend to talk more than it needs to.
:lol:
PS: The video ended abruptly because I accidentally hit the spacebar while it was connected to the computer. :lol:
PS2: Also the spacebar on that keyboard is surprisingly silent, like no stabilizer rattle at all.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

14 Jun 2021, 09:42

Myoth wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 15:32
Urbi wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 13:50
It is a Goupil Compact Keyboard (1800-Layout) with Azerty-Layout. It is made in Germany and in as new condition.

It looks exactly like the Compact Cherry-Goupils in the Wiki.
it doesn't, the Goupil badge is at the top while the Cherry ones have the logo between the function cluster and the main cluster.
Now for sale on ebay-kleinanzeigen.de:
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 2-225-3120
Ready for the next buyer to be disappointed :cry:

ZeFritz

19 Jun 2021, 00:36

I know the keyboard, it’s an OEM RAFI. .
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But I have trouble to identify the switches:
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I’ve thought they are [wiki]RAFI RS 77 C[/wiki] and wrote so in the Wiki, but I have nagging doubts. Can someone identify the switches, so that I can correct any mistakes I’ve made in the Wiki? Key travel is 4mm.
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Rayndalf

19 Jun 2021, 03:01

What a gorgeous board!

davkol

21 Jun 2021, 13:36


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raoulduke-esq

21 Jun 2021, 13:48

It's an anti-touch typing trainer so you can develop good two-finger typing skills and avoid RSI.

ZeFritz

21 Jun 2021, 14:01

It’s a “keyguard” for disabled people.
https://patient-innovation.com/post/1059

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raoulduke-esq

21 Jun 2021, 14:04

ZeFritz wrote:
21 Jun 2021, 14:01
It’s a “keyguard” for disabled people.
https://patient-innovation.com/post/1059
That's really cool- thanks for sharing!

ZeFritz

23 Jun 2021, 11:13

I’ve asked previously if able to identify maker and / or switches of this keyboard.
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Since some keys some keys are distinctly sculpted, I’m still hoping someone could help. The form clearly rings a bell in my memory, but I can’t place it…
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Seller didn’t answer my request for a picture of the back / any label on the keyboard :(

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Trackball-Tast ... 3298278442

ZeFritz

23 Jun 2021, 13:17

OK, I’ve found the answer to my own question.
It’s a DS102W from Printec DS.
According to this data sheet (for a slightly different variant with integrated finger mouse) it’s rubber dome (“Principle: Contact by a silicon switch pad with carbon contacts”).
https://www.wagnergmbh.de/wp-content/u ... -black.pdf
Double shot keycaps (data sheet; Printec website states “lasered keycaps”) IP65 protection, “3.25 mm travel keys with tactile feel”, operation force 0,65 N.
Connection is a bit hazy, “Bidirectional serial output in IBM format”, but there are variants with DIN-SubD9, PS/2 and USB. And since the one on EBay has a proprietary connector, your guess about it is as good as mine.

Pavle9300

25 Jun 2021, 14:31

Hi all, I think this is some kind of integrated dome keyboard, but I am interested in what the experts here think. Thank you.
PS. Please ignore cherry mx black in one of the photos.
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