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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 04:26
by zrrion
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Any idea what's under the hood?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 23:09
by SpacemanToby
I have no idea but I like that name morse-a-keyer

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 23:28
by HC514
I'm guessing that's got Futaba switches of some description.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 10 Sep 2019, 22:45
by Keybug
Hm, having mixed feelings about this one. It looks extremely flat, but could still have ALPS, no? Anyone got an inkling? Thanks!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 12:05
by ppCircle
Any idea what keyboard it is, and what switches it use?

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 12:09
by Myoth
Keybug wrote:
10 Sep 2019, 22:45
Hm, having mixed feelings about this one. It looks extremely flat, but could still have ALPS, no? Anyone got an inkling? Thanks!
looks like NMB slider over dome, but I'm not sure
ppCircle wrote:
12 Sep 2019, 12:05
Any idea what keyboard it is, and what switches it use?
I don't know what it actually is, but it's similar to this keyboard : viewtopic.php?t=13636 so I would guess it has the same switches

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 12:34
by Chyros
The keycaps are extremely RAFI. I'd definitely bet on that.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 12:37
by Findecanor
The logo is for B&R Industrial Automation in Germany. Probably special-made for some heavy machinery.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 13:24
by Keybug
Yes, Rafi-made for sure!

Myoth: I actually found an NMB board with space invaders in a practically identical case. What made you assume it's sliders-over-dome?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 17:58
by Lbibass
Keybug wrote:
12 Sep 2019, 13:24
Yes, Rafi-made for sure!

Myoth: I actually found an NMB board with space invaders in a practically identical case. What made you assume it's sliders-over-dome?
The caps, probably. The profile is very different for SI.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 03:02
by PlacaFromHell
What is this? I can't find any info.
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Alright, found it. Nice and cool Cherry MX blacks.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 10:30
by togofwd
Hello, please help with identify:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184456093@N05/

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 10:35
by Chyros
togofwd wrote:
16 Sep 2019, 10:30
Hello, please help with identify:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184456093@N05/
The FCC ID reveals it's an NTC KB-5060C, which is a model I'm not familiar with. The switches are Omron B3G-S, however it's difficult to tell the colour of the slider. On the picture it looks salmon-coloured, but this variation hasn't been documented before; it's likely amber Omrons.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 10:41
by togofwd
Chyros wrote:
16 Sep 2019, 10:35
togofwd wrote:
16 Sep 2019, 10:30
Hello, please help with identify:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184456093@N05/
The FCC ID reveals it's an NTC KB-5060C, which is a model I'm not familiar with. The switches are Omron B3G-S, however it's difficult to tell the colour of the slider. On the picture it looks salmon-coloured, but this variation hasn't been documented before; it's likely amber Omrons.
The color of stem is exactly as in wiki wiki/Omron_B3G-S_series (amber)

Thank you.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 16:40
by Neonkyle
Found this online, looked similar to model M in the thumbnail but upon further inspection I couldn't really guess. The only thing known about it is it's from 1992. Any ideas? It's a tricky one I guess

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 16:49
by Findecanor
Neonkyle wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 16:40
Found this online, looked similar to model M in the thumbnail but upon further inspection I couldn't really guess. The only thing known about it is it's from 1992. Any ideas? It's a tricky one I guess
Key Tronic rubber dome. The rounded case with rounded corners and front lip is very characteristic.
Could be hit or miss: some are good, some are mushy. We haven't found a way to tell which ones are which.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 16:53
by mr_a500
zrrion wrote:
07 Sep 2019, 04:26
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Any idea what's under the hood?
I've got one of those. It's a George Risk 753 keyboard with Futaba linear switches.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 17:12
by Neonkyle
What about this one? I'm looking to get into collecting old keyboards, and its hard finding anything decent here.
Found that online too, zero details on that one, aside from blurry bad resolution images.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 17:16
by zrrion
mr_a500 wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 16:53
I've got one of those. It's a George Risk 753 keyboard with Futaba linear switches.
Nice, the listing got too rich for my blood on account of the other ham stuff in the listing, and I wasn't willing to shell out for a mystery board. I'll have to add that board to my list though, its probably the best looking F MD board IMO.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 17:33
by snuci
zrrion wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 17:16
Nice, the listing got too rich for my blood on account of the other ham stuff in the listing, and I wasn't willing to shell out for a mystery board. I'll have to add that board to my list though, its probably the best looking F MD board IMO.
I have one of these and the decoder. I bought it because it's a George Risk keyboard. It is very nice.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 18:40
by mr_a500
The PCB is pretty neat.

George Risk 753 PCB.jpg

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 19:36
by zrrion
I have a mighty need

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:29
by dionb
Hi there - new here but very much bitten by the bug...

Picked up these two recently, expecting to easily be able to identify them, but neither has any identifying marks I can find. Both seem pretty CP/M-ish. The first has incredible thick ABS keycaps, but other than that feels very cheap & rough. The second has low DSA-like PBT (?) keycaps and really smooth linear switches. I prefer my keyboards tactile, but this one would be a beauty to type on.

I bought both 2nd hand in NL, but the smooth board is FR-style AZERTY and has a flip-out Calcstar function key hint card.

1st, 'cheap' board:
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2nd 'smooth' board:
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Note that I cleaned both boards after these pictures were taken.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:36
by ZedTheMan
First one looks like smk vintage linear or clone for the switches.

The second, what the hell are those switches?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:46
by Lbibass
The first one looks like SMK Vintage linear. I know I have seen the second one somewhere…

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:48
by Lbibass
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5167&start=

You know, that mount looks almost something like this. Let me do a bit more research...

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:49
by elecplus
Keybug wrote:
10 Sep 2019, 22:45
Hm, having mixed feelings about this one. It looks extremely flat, but could still have ALPS, no? Anyone got an inkling? Thanks!
That looks like old MX blacks to me.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:55
by Lbibass
wiki/Philips_torsion_spring

there doesn't appear to be any images, but the description matches.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:56
by Lbibass
dionb wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 23:29
Hi there - new here but very much bitten by the bug...

Picked up these two recently, expecting to easily be able to identify them, but neither has any identifying marks I can find. Both seem pretty CP/M-ish. The first has incredible thick ABS keycaps, but other than that feels very cheap & rough. The second has low DSA-like PBT (?) keycaps and really smooth linear switches. I prefer my keyboards tactile, but this one would be a beauty to type on.

I bought both 2nd hand in NL, but the smooth board is FR-style AZERTY and has a flip-out Calcstar function key hint card.

1st, 'cheap' board:
Image
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2nd 'smooth' board:
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Note that I cleaned both boards after these pictures were taken.

Took me a while, but I had torsion spring in my head… I couldn't figure out why.

viewtopic.php?t=9821&start=30

Here you go! Phillips Torsion spring switches.

viewtopic.php?p=208657#p208657

They are exactly the same as yours.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 00:21
by dionb
Lbibass wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 23:46
The first one looks like SMK Vintage linear. I know I have seen the second one somewhere…
Are SMK Vintage switches supposed to be even remotely smooth? These aren't in any event, and the build quality (plastic used in the cross) looks lower than on pics of SMK Vintage switches.
Lbibass wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 23:56
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Took me a while, but I had torsion spring in my head… I couldn't figure out why.

viewtopic.php?t=9821&start=30

Here you go! Phillips Torsion spring switches.

viewtopic.php?p=208657#p208657

They are exactly the same as yours.
Yep, those are the switches! In fact not just the switches - those keycaps are the same design too, with the square front and rounded back, and same font.

Looks like a Philips board then.

Any idea what kind of system they came from, and what that DIN-19 connector might talk? I recently made my own controller for an Osborne Variant 1 with 20 pin connector - that just passively fed the key matrix out of the cable. If this did the same it should be easy to get something hooked up. However there seems to be a bit more logic on this board than on the Osborne.