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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 15:23
by Lbibass
dionb wrote:
18 Sep 2019, 00:21
Lbibass wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 23:46
The first one looks like SMK Vintage linear. I know I have seen the second one somewhere…
Are SMK Vintage switches supposed to be even remotely smooth? These aren't in any event, and the build quality (plastic used in the cross) looks lower than on pics of SMK Vintage switches.
Lbibass wrote:
17 Sep 2019, 23:56
[...]

Took me a while, but I had torsion spring in my head… I couldn't figure out why.

viewtopic.php?t=9821&start=30

Here you go! Phillips Torsion spring switches.

viewtopic.php?p=208657#p208657

They are exactly the same as yours.
Yep, those are the switches! In fact not just the switches - those keycaps are the same design too, with the square front and rounded back, and same font.

Looks like a Philips board then.

Any idea what kind of system they came from, and what that DIN-19 connector might talk? I recently made my own controller for an Osborne Variant 1 with 20 pin connector - that just passively fed the key matrix out of the cable. If this did the same it should be easy to get something hooked up. However there seems to be a bit more logic on this board than on the Osborne.
In my experience, the ones that I have had have not been very smooth. It's also entirely possible it's one of the dozen or so clones of the SMK design that exist. And I have no idea what that DIN connector might speak. It's probably a weird, proprietary protocol.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 11:05
by PlacaFromHell
Just curious about the switches of this computer:

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 12:48
by mr_a500
It looks like Mitsumi mechanical, a light and smooth switch also used in the Amiga 1000.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 16:03
by Findecanor
Very possibly some kind of Mitsumi and square Mitsumi mount, but the slider is different from the Mitsumi standard mechanical with Mitsumi-mount that I have seen.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 16:59
by MrMavlok
Any idea what this might be/about the switches inside? Its in quite rough shape, but it looks interesting.
(It says SCOPUS on the top).

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 20:43
by PlacaFromHell
mr_a500 wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 12:48
It looks like Mitsumi mechanical, a light and smooth switch also used in the Amiga 1000.
Most likely yes, but the slider is different and it has a weird version of the skinny green Alps. I saw the same switches in some Mitsumi-made keyboards, so they can be an undocumented variant.
At this point I don't really know if I want it, vintage computers are so cool but the hobby itself is quite expensive and I don't really know what to do with a national version of an MSX BASIC.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 21:56
by lewinm
Hello, it's my first post on this forum. I'm interested if any of you every heard of keyboard:

dtk spk-102a
fcc F825K4SPK102A

Could you provide info about switches for such keyboard?

I googled it and I couldn't find any information about this specific model.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 22:22
by Lbibass
lewinm wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 21:56
Hello, it's my first post on this forum. I'm interested if any of you every heard of keyboard:

dtk spk-102a
fcc F825K4SPK102A

Could you provide info about switches for such keyboard?

I googled it and I couldn't find any information about this specific model.
Do you have a photo of the keyboard?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 22:28
by lewinm
Here are the photos. I hope you can view them. First time posting :)
https://ibb.co/DKkPrGt
https://ibb.co/37JF5V8

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 09:54
by davkol
The -A likely means Alps, probably white Alps.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 24 Sep 2019, 15:46
by rymut
Any ideas what kind of switches this keyboard have?
Westrex International KBQ2400, it looks like some POS keyboard as shown in the photo https://web.archive.org/web/20001030080 ... yboard.htm
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 24 Sep 2019, 17:14
by zrrion
My guess is MX blacks, as the caps look like dcs caps.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 24 Sep 2019, 22:14
by Noobmaen
Pretty sure it's a Preh rubberdome

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 24 Sep 2019, 22:16
by rymut
zrrion wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 17:14
My guess is MX blacks, as the caps look like dcs caps.
I got the photo of the switch, mount looks cherry MX compatible but it definitely is not mx switch, my guess right now is that switch is variation of slider with rubber dome, or some clone - Can anybody confirm my suspicion.
Seller says that it have nice click (maybe he means sound of bottoming out), and it is definitely not a futaba switch.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 02:11
by kbdfr
Noobmaen wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 22:14
Pretty sure it's a Preh rubberdome
I concur.
The keycaps on the numpad are Preh relegendables.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 28 Sep 2019, 21:28
by SneakyRobb
Hi, For fun I called the Westrex International Office in Boston. Took quite a few tries to get a human. They seem to just maintain POS printers and are a tiny size compared to before. Not sure how many people even work there.

The guy at Westrex said that they closed their keyboard manufacturing facility 15 years ago and have no documentation about their keyboards.

What he did say though was that they manufactured almost every part of their POS keyboards in-house.

He wasn't able to say what parts were made in house and what weren't though.

My guess is they did not make at least the keycaps.

If you acquire the board, I am now very curious as to what is inside.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 30 Sep 2019, 08:28
by rymut
Sadly price is bit to step for me, maybe if seller will drop the price I will buy it in some later time.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 30 Sep 2019, 20:20
by snufflecat
Anyone recognize the ICL board(s) here? Worth getting?
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 01 Oct 2019, 10:14
by Fabbione
Hi, does anyone recognize this devlin keyboard or know what kind of switches it mounts?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 01 Oct 2019, 12:13
by ppCircle
Fabbione wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 10:14
Hi, does anyone recognize this devlin keyboard or know what kind of switches it mounts?
Maybe futaba.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 01 Oct 2019, 13:50
by swampangel
snufflecat wrote:
30 Sep 2019, 20:20
Anyone recognize the ICL board(s) here? Worth getting?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94063.0 suggests rubberdome, but it's maybe not authoritative

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 01 Oct 2019, 16:00
by snufflecat
swampangel wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 13:50
snufflecat wrote:
30 Sep 2019, 20:20
Anyone recognize the ICL board(s) here? Worth getting?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94063.0 suggests rubberdome, but it's maybe not authoritative
Thanks. I bought two and noticed that the second one with the red markings on the keycaps had a peculiar placed escape-key, but as far as I know that's not really indicative of anything. Buys like these are usually a gamble, but that's part of the fun… :mrgreen:

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 01 Oct 2019, 19:59
by ollir
snufflecat wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 16:00
swampangel wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 13:50
snufflecat wrote:
30 Sep 2019, 20:20
Anyone recognize the ICL board(s) here? Worth getting?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94063.0 suggests rubberdome, but it's maybe not authoritative
Thanks. I bought two and noticed that the second one with the red markings on the keycaps had a peculiar placed escape-key, but as far as I know that's not really indicative of anything. Buys like these are usually a gamble, but that's part of the fun… :mrgreen:
A friend of mine had a board like the top two ICLs and it felt mushy, linear and unlikable.
(he liked it though)

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2019, 08:43
by snufflecat
ollir wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 19:59
A friend of mine had a board like the top two ICLs and it felt mushy, linear and unlikable.
(he liked it though)
Dang it. Let's at least hope one's good..

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2019, 15:42
by snufflecat
Also, anyone have experience with the Cromemco C-10? Or at least can make a guesstimate on the keyboard?
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2019, 16:40
by mr_a500
The font looks like Maxi-Switch / SMK vintage linear.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2019, 18:52
by snuci
snufflecat wrote:
02 Oct 2019, 15:42
Also, anyone have experience with the Cromemco C-10? Or at least can make a guesstimate on the keyboard?
I have a Cromemco C10 (sadly, no floppy drives). I'll see if I can take a look at the keyboard tonight.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 00:13
by snuci
The Cromemco C-10 keyboard is Oak Full-Travel Membrane.
Cromemco C-10 keyboard
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 08:36
by snufflecat
snuci wrote:
03 Oct 2019, 00:13
The Cromemco C-10 keyboard is Oak Full-Travel Membrane.
Thank you! Don't think I'll be getting it then.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 15:57
by User101
snufflecat wrote:
03 Oct 2019, 08:36
snuci wrote:
03 Oct 2019, 00:13
The Cromemco C-10 keyboard is Oak Full-Travel Membrane.
Thank you! Don't think I'll be getting it then.
The oak membrane is a very nice switch. Dont look at the name, I have two boards with this type switch and they're all very smooth linear.