NCR H0150-STD1-10-17

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seebart
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12 May 2015, 12:38

Got this the other day. The Label on the back reads NCR H0150-STD1-10-17. The Cherry sticker on the PCB reads G80-0624 and 47/85. Unfortunately the case and caps are very yellowed, even more than the pictures convey. Not much else to say really, these MX blacks from 85 are super smooth like those on my Cherry G80-0499. The spacebar is a MX Linear Grey. This keyboard came with the NCR Decision Mate V computer, or at least with one revision of that machine.
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photekq
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12 May 2015, 18:47

Nice one! Is the Alt 1.75u and the Caps Lock 2u?

I got some NCR keycaps today.. Although in regular ANSI layout :mrgreen:

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seebart
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12 May 2015, 18:50

Thanks photekq. It was worth it just for the 85 blacks. It could use some serious retrobrighting though. I really should get into that this summer.

sprit1

13 May 2015, 07:54

Great! Seems a bit earlier than My NCR-0528 made in 1985.
I guess the switches on NCR-0624 might have mould No.1~20, super smooth early MX.
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HzFaq

13 May 2015, 10:11

Nice one seebart, supercool hat-caps on my favourite Cherry layout :D.

Shame it's so yellow...

Volks

13 May 2015, 10:17

:lol: I have one of this as well, but mine is in US layout

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seebart
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05 Jun 2016, 19:50

HzFaq wrote: Nice one seebart, supercool hat-caps on my favourite Cherry layout :D.

Shame it's so yellow...
Yes HzFaq true. ;) Due to extremely (good) weather conditions I have been trying out kbdfr's "wipe-on" retrobright method with pretty decent results, I'm posting these pictures because this NCR Cherry was soooo very yellowed that even in the pictures it's striking which is often not the case.
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Here's kbdfr's retrobright formula:

workshop-f7/g80-5000-mod-questions-t109 ... 0my%205000

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kbdfr
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06 Jun 2016, 15:35

Glad it worked for you as well :D

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seebart
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06 Jun 2016, 15:56

It works quite well, not sure if the creme oxydant or the oxy vanish can "harm" keycap printing. I believe it did on my Apple M0110, it did not on these Cherry doubleshots. I will eventually try the other bathing method with UV light.

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gnmar2723

22 Apr 2017, 22:10

Digging this post up from the dead because I am wondering how seebart went about converting the NCR board. I have a very similar one, G80-0577, but it is ansi layout with all the stepped keys.

I tried a DIN to ps2 converter and it didn't work. I'm not really sure where I should go from here.

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seebart
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23 Apr 2017, 14:02

gnmar2723 wrote: Digging this post up from the dead because I am wondering how seebart went about converting the NCR board. I have a very similar one, G80-0577, but it is ansi layout with all the stepped keys.

I tried a DIN to ps2 converter and it didn't work. I'm not really sure where I should go from here.
A cable adapter will not work since this keyboard "speaks" the XT keyboard protocol that was introduced by IBM for their IBM Personal Computer model XT. We do have a prominent community project that solves this problem, you can find all the details here:

workshop-f7/xt-at-ps2-terminal-to-usb-c ... t2510.html

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gnmar2723

23 Apr 2017, 20:44

seebart wrote:
gnmar2723 wrote: Digging this post up from the dead because I am wondering how seebart went about converting the NCR board. I have a very similar one, G80-0577, but it is ansi layout with all the stepped keys.

I tried a DIN to ps2 converter and it didn't work. I'm not really sure where I should go from here.
A cable adapter will not work since this keyboard "speaks" the XT keyboard protocol that was introduced by IBM for their IBM Personal Computer model XT. We do have a prominent community project that solves this problem, you can find all the details here:

workshop-f7/xt-at-ps2-terminal-to-usb-c ... t2510.html
Thank you seebart, I do appreciate it very much :)

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seebart
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24 Apr 2017, 15:38

gnmar2723 wrote:
seebart wrote:
gnmar2723 wrote: Digging this post up from the dead because I am wondering how seebart went about converting the NCR board. I have a very similar one, G80-0577, but it is ansi layout with all the stepped keys.

I tried a DIN to ps2 converter and it didn't work. I'm not really sure where I should go from here.
A cable adapter will not work since this keyboard "speaks" the XT keyboard protocol that was introduced by IBM for their IBM Personal Computer model XT. We do have a prominent community project that solves this problem, you can find all the details here:

workshop-f7/xt-at-ps2-terminal-to-usb-c ... t2510.html
Thank you seebart, I do appreciate it very much :)
Sure, don't thank me too quickly though, as you can see it involves quite a bit of work. Just make sure the keyboard is worth the effort to you before you start spending time & money.

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gnmar2723

25 Apr 2017, 00:56

seebart wrote: Sure, don't thank me too quickly though, as you can see it involves quite a bit of work. Just make sure the keyboard is worth the effort to you before you start spending time & money.
Heh, yeah I've know about soarer's converter for a while, but haven't had the chance to really dive into it. Will a pro-micro controller work? I've got a couple of those lying around. My board is in great condition too, caps and switches are basically NiB!

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seebart
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25 Apr 2017, 13:55

Have a look at Scott's pro micro thread here although it's about IBM model F conversion:

workshop-f7/how-to-use-a-pro-micro-as-a ... ro%20micro

Thesaltyoubreathe

05 May 2020, 01:05

Hey everyone. So I came across a few boxes of these in varying condition. Some great others not, anyone know where I can sell these wholesale? I have pics available

Thesaltyoubreathe

07 May 2020, 22:37

I have 14 g83 in varying condition. 35 per plus shipping if anyone is interested. Have pics.

Thesaltyoubreathe

08 May 2020, 02:37

Also two IBM model F in solid condition, one is missing a few keys. (Arrow keys mostly)

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funkmon

08 May 2020, 06:07

How much for one of those Model Fs with intact keycaps? :P. I have seen people tear those down and restore them before, but it just seems incomprehensible to me. I'm not electronically literate.

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ddrfraser1

08 May 2020, 15:09

funkmon wrote:
08 May 2020, 06:07
How much for one of those Model Fs with intact keycaps? :P. I have seen people tear those down and restore them before, but it just seems incomprehensible to me. I'm not electronically literate.
You don’t have to be. Just unscrew everything, clean it, put it back together the way you found it and find the right adapter. There are some great tutorials on YouTube. The great thing about model fs is no matter how bad they are, you can get them looking beautiful again so long as the case isn’t busted.

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kbdfr
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09 May 2020, 09:27

Thesaltyoubreathe wrote:
07 May 2020, 22:37
I have 14 g83 in varying condition. 35 per plus shipping if anyone is interested. Have pics.
G83 keyboards are virtually worthless, being rubberdome and not MX compatible.
As for the case itself, there's no way the lower shell could be modded to accommodate G80 innards,
and I'm not sure the upper shell (which would require quite heavy modding anyway) would fit the lower shell of a G80:
wiki/File:G83-3000_SAU_top_some_removed.jpg

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Muirium
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09 May 2020, 09:33

The SAU model you linked does have sublime dye sub caps, at least. Though painfully incompatible with real key switches! Oh Cherry, why put such great caps on shite?

Anyway, I suspect the G83s in question here are not so lucky in the caps department.

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