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depletedvespene

04 May 2019, 01:02

davkol wrote:
03 May 2019, 21:30
Turkish uses Latin script and F Keyboard is a hugely successful national layout. There have been attempts to replace it by Q Keyboard, specifically because of stuff like the aforementioned hotkeys, and that trend is a classic example of underlying imperialism that comes with US-exported computing technology. Especially East Asian countries have a long history of issues with that, but not only them: it already happened in the times of early typewriter technology (how foreign manufacturers w/ QWERTY-based layouts overran local designs, e.g., in France)... and now I wonder if this will totally derail the thread.
I wonder if this argument could be a good basis for a redesign of the keyboard(s) where everything non-language related is common (minus the actual legends on keys, like Shift/Mayús/Maj/⇑/...), common user functions are made into dedicated keys (imagine the XT/AT layouts' F1..F10 columns, but with the ten most used CUA commands, again in local languages only), and then the alpha block and the num block and only those vary according to each national/language variant, with whatever Alt/Ctrl-letter/number commands might remain required to refer to a key's coordinate instead of its letter.

I know, this wouldn't be good enough for every language, but at least many of them could be properly supported, with each being valued in as good of a manner as the others. And yes, this would require revisiting plenty of national layouts and perhaps even redoing them and... (I should stop now before starting to shill my stuff :mrgreen:).

Lanrefni

04 May 2019, 02:02

depletedvespene wrote:
04 May 2019, 00:50
Lanrefni wrote:
03 May 2019, 19:03
A proper large split ortho should include a center Numpad-

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All the keys of a full size,but in a nice compact ortho layout,if you need insert/delete/etc they are on the Numpad where they belong.
This a pair of BFO-9000 PCBs? Those came out (or, more precisely, I learned they existed) after my time toying around with ortholinear stuff. The 15×5 matrix of the XD75 felt limiting (and so did the SOLBUS cluster), and sometimes I wonder what could have I done with a pair of those instead.
Yup,BFO-9000 with custom plates.
The pcb's are still pretty cheap at $20,and keeb.io now offers acrylic plates on their site as well,so no need to custom anything other switch and layout now.

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User101

06 May 2019, 08:51

probably the closest one can get to a Selectric layout without a Selectric?
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tucvbif

15 May 2019, 22:47

I gonna make a board with this layout:Image. I wanna try shift keys next to spacebars, like in some old soviet computers, left-handed arrow keys and dedicated cut-copy-paste and undo/redo keys.

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vvp

15 May 2019, 22:57

Splitting space bar is a move in the right direction!

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depletedvespene

16 May 2019, 00:55

tucvbif wrote:
15 May 2019, 22:47
I gonna make a board with this layout:Image. I wanna try shift keys next to spacebars, like in some old soviet computers, left-handed arrow keys and dedicated cut-copy-paste and undo/redo keys.
Interesting ideas - some pretty radical (and I DID notice that TIE over there :mrgreen:). FWIW, when I toyed with a design for a 75%-ish keyboard with the navigation keys on the left side, this is what I came up with:

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A possible 75%-ish layout, with the navigation keys on the left side.
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I do wonder if dedicated copy/paste keys would be best placed on the lower right corner or whether it'd be more practical to place them (along with Undo and Redo) in a dedicated column (on the right side, in both these layouts). Only one way to find out! :D

Findecanor

16 May 2019, 02:11

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orihalcon

16 May 2019, 05:05

I've always loved thumb shift keyboards myself:
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Perhaps one day with the help of Wcass, I might bring something like it to life :D

uyaszx

09 Jul 2019, 07:33

hallo, im new here...i want to make some keyboard( 67 keys) like this :

any input or suggestion about this layout ?

thx u all
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Scarpia

09 Jul 2019, 16:02

Looks nice to me, although I don’t know where you’ll be able to find that wiiiiiide Left Ctrl keycap.

tobiasvl

17 Jul 2019, 10:58

uyaszx wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 07:33
hallo, im new here...i want to make some keyboard( 67 keys) like this :

any input or suggestion about this layout ?

thx u all
Isn't that a pretty standard 65% layout, except for the wide left Ctrl? If you can live with a slightly different bottom row (3 x 1.25u, 6.25u space bar, 6 x 1u) you can get a KBD67 or something. You can map the left Windows/Super key to Ctrl as well in QMK if you want to.

uyaszx

19 Jul 2019, 14:08

tobiasvl wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 10:58
uyaszx wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 07:33
hallo, im new here...i want to make some keyboard( 67 keys) like this :

any input or suggestion about this layout ?

thx u all
Isn't that a pretty standard 65% layout, except for the wide left Ctrl? If you can live with a slightly different bottom row (3 x 1.25u, 6.25u space bar, 6 x 1u) you can get a KBD67 or something. You can map the left Windows/Super key to Ctrl as well in QMK if you want to.
just search for that ideal of layout, and i found that 60% pcb ( dz60) can do it...
just minus hot swapable switch and LED/ key
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Sup

19 Jul 2019, 19:40

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I don't know why but i like this layout :lol:

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depletedvespene

19 Jul 2019, 19:50

Sup wrote:
19 Jul 2019, 19:40
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I don't know why but i like this layout :lol:
I think that it's because you're one of those homeless gits with no escape who hate in an endless manner the introduction of the F11 and F12 keys back in 1985. Pause for a moment, and learn to let go, man! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Also, replace the RWin key with an RCtrl. ;)

daguil68367

20 Jul 2019, 03:09

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I cannot stress how much I wish there were a keyboard like this.

Menuhin

20 Jul 2019, 11:25

Sup wrote:
19 Jul 2019, 19:40
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I don't know why but i like this layout :lol:
I like this one.

With a few (perhaps drastic) mods:
  1. Stepped CapsLock used as the L_Ctrl
  2. R_Alt to AltGr
  3. Left Win to Fn1 (so things like Alt + F4 is easier)
  4. Tick key at the corner to Esc
  5. Split Backspace + 1.5u Backspace setting as you've indicated
  6. Current L_Ctrl can become CapsLock, but I can make it a Fn2 or some special function keys
The 1.5u separator for the arrow cluster is gold:
  • It makes reaching for the arrow cluster easier
  • It renders the spacebar and the mods next to it all standard for easier compatibility to key sets: 1.25u + 1.25u + 1.25u + 6.25u + 1.25u + 1.25u
Perhaps that's why RAMA ditches M65 design for its new Koyu.

Placing the F keys on the left is also closer and more "consistent":
  • Rotating of left hand is enough for reaching most of the keys, and unlike in keyboards with a 1u gap between numeral row and F row, most people will lift their hand to press the F keys
  • More "consistent" because you'll only use the left hand
I will miss the easy access to F11 and F12, but it can be an easy fix, e.g. Fn1 (or Fn2) + F1 = F11, Fn1 (or Fn2) + F2 = F12
There are keyboards out there (or still in IC phase) that support this layout, but am at the moment not rich enough to really consider.

tobiasvl

Yesterday, 22:52

uyaszx wrote:
19 Jul 2019, 14:08
just search for that ideal of layout, and i found that 60% pcb ( dz60) can do it...
just minus hot swapable switch and LED/ key
DZ60RGB is hotswappable and has LED/key, but again has a different bottom row (three mods in the bottom left) and a longer right shift (which doubles as /? when tapped). Close though!

On topic: I've recently become interested in a 50% layout. Not sure if it's the standard term, but it's a 40% with two extra columns, or a 60% without the number row.

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