Alps Appreciation

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ppCircle

17 Mar 2020, 14:50

Fk-747a Before and after retrobright. (i have to make new shortcuts bar but that gonna take a bit because of that epidemic :cry: )
Love those polish legends in this board.

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

17 Mar 2020, 14:51

ppCircle wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 14:50
Fk-747a Before and after retrobright. (i have to make new shortcuts bar but that gonna take a bit because of that epidemic :cry: )
Love those polish legends in this board.
It honestly looks like the board never got yellowed in the after pic. Well done.

4sStylZ

17 Mar 2020, 15:15

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3 AEK Azerty ISO white dampened
4 AEK Qwerty ANSI cream dampened
2 ASK ISO salmon alps

BTW I have a theory about cream / white dampened. Seem's that all my French board got White dampened and all my Qwerty board got Cream.

What is the rule for others country ?

Aran.E99

17 Mar 2020, 17:28

4sStylZ wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 15:15
What is the rule for others country ?
I've only had 3 AEKII's (all late model UK/ISO variants, assembled in Ireland) and they all had white damped switches.

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fohat
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17 Mar 2020, 19:00

My experience was that the 1989 copyright AEK2 was salmon, the 1990 copyrights were dampened cream, and 1995 copyrights were dampened white, but my sample group was not large.

4_404

18 Mar 2020, 00:11

NEC 'Bigfoot'/'AT-101'. ALPS branding on the PCB, NEC style doubleshots for grey/white keys other than number pad, similar to those on the NEC APC 412 Blue oval boards. Coloured keys and numpad looks to be pad printed. Clicky white Alps with slits. Model is SA902A-CAC KB and date on the label is May 1990
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kelvinhall05

18 Mar 2020, 00:26

Those caps are great...interested in selling them?

4_404

18 Mar 2020, 00:34

Not at the moment, plus I'm in Aus so the shipping would likely be pretty bad, but give me a message as I do need to clear out/sell some stuff soon.

I did try making them ANSI with a couple of SGI dyesubs, but unfortunately the different fonts, colours and keycap shapes didn't really work that well together.

kelvinhall05

18 Mar 2020, 00:48

4_404 wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 00:34
Not at the moment, plus I'm in Aus so the shipping would likely be pretty bad, but give me a message as I do need to clear out/sell some stuff soon.

I did try making them ANSI with a couple of SGI dyesubs, but unfortunately the different fonts, colours and keycap shapes didn't really work that well together.
Alright, lmk. Those colourful caps are awesome, and the grey ones are pretty cool, too.

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Redmaus
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18 Mar 2020, 01:29

4_404 wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 00:11
NEC 'Bigfoot'/'AT-101'. ALPS branding on the PCB, NEC style doubleshots for grey/white keys other than number pad, similar to those on the NEC APC 412 Blue oval boards. Coloured keys and numpad looks to be pad printed. Clicky white Alps with slits. Model is SA902A-CAC KB and date on the label is May 1990
That's an exquisite board you got there, never seen any alps caps like that before. Too bad its BAE :(

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Weezer

18 Mar 2020, 01:41

Redmaus wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 01:29
4_404 wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 00:11
NEC 'Bigfoot'/'AT-101'. ALPS branding on the PCB, NEC style doubleshots for grey/white keys other than number pad, similar to those on the NEC APC 412 Blue oval boards. Coloured keys and numpad looks to be pad printed. Clicky white Alps with slits. Model is SA902A-CAC KB and date on the label is May 1990
That's an exquisite board you got there, never seen any alps caps like that before. Too bad its BAE :(
You don't like bae??

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Redmaus
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18 Mar 2020, 01:50

Weezer wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 01:41
You don't like bae??
I don't aesthetics ruined with the asymmetry :geek:

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Chyros

18 Mar 2020, 07:46

Wow, that's a damn nice board =o .

4_404

18 Mar 2020, 08:07

Thanks! Supposedly it's from a New Zealand telecom company. I didn't know where were 'bigfoot' boards with BAE or clicky Alps. Assumed they were white damped until I tried them. The tops of the caps are also extrtraordinarily thick; a couple of the modifiers seem to be at least 3-4mm of solid plastic (not sure what that is in imperial units). It's in great condition as well.

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swampangel

20 Mar 2020, 21:17

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Yesterday I finished replacing the original switch tops (top housing, slider, spring, and click leaf) in my Omnikey 101 with NOS pine white ones.

The originals were maybe 7/10 after years of use so I'm going to clean and keep them for the next project.

With the new switches, I'm reminded why this has been my favourite keyboard over so many years.

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snacksthecat
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02 Apr 2020, 09:50

We interrupt this program to bring you a broadcast from the see-thru keycap crew.

The see-thru keycap crew is the best crew, no crew can compete with the see-thru's.

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nicolai

07 Apr 2020, 00:25

Is this the right place to post this?
Found this in the attic, and was sent over here from geekhack.org, heard you guys like these.
I dont know if it works, I ordered the adapter to put it in the pc to see if it works.
The ENTER key is a bit mushy idk if its dirty or if the key is damaged, I can post a video if anyone wants.
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webwit
Wild Duck

07 Apr 2020, 00:38

Very nice, blue alps and big ass enter... Probably the real thing!

nicolai

07 Apr 2020, 00:45

Theres fakes?

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E3E

07 Apr 2020, 00:56

Relax, they're real.

jacobtrees1221

07 Apr 2020, 01:58

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This is my v80 with canon hipros. I'm gonna be rebuilding this baby next week with SKCL greens. Can't wait!

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E3E

07 Apr 2020, 02:08

jacobtrees1221 wrote:
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This is my v80 with canon hipros. I'm gonna be rebuilding this baby next week with SKCL greens. Can't wait!
Wow, that is the first tasteful usage I've seen of the Canon spherical caps. It actually matches very well with the Tai Hao Dolch colorway.

That's very impressive! Good work.

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Jaki1122

07 Apr 2020, 02:33

swampangel wrote:
20 Mar 2020, 21:17
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Yesterday I finished replacing the original switch tops (top housing, slider, spring, and click leaf) in my Omnikey 101 with NOS pine white ones.

The originals were maybe 7/10 after years of use so I'm going to clean and keep them for the next project.

With the new switches, I'm reminded why this has been my favourite keyboard over so many years.
I have one exactly like that one with NOS White SKCM switches! Amazing keyboard, amazing sound and, of course, amazing construction quality. I rarely use mine now, it's reserved for the weekends sort to speak, my daily is a Model F. I think, I'm just a bit afraid to damage my Northgate or to cause some wear and tear.
Enjoy your toy!!! Cheers!

jacobtrees1221

07 Apr 2020, 09:03

E3E wrote:
07 Apr 2020, 02:08

Wow, that is the first tasteful usage I've seen of the Canon spherical caps. It actually matches very well with the Tai Hao Dolch colorway.

That's very impressive! Good work.
Thank you! I was worried the colors would be very off but I’m very pleased with how it turned out. Always on the hunt for cool Alps keycaps tho :)

ScarletSwordfish

10 Apr 2020, 04:26

Hi, I'm in the middle of restoring an Apple Extended Keyboard II with salmon Alps switches, with the intention to sell it. As with many old Alps tactile boards, many of the switches have become clicky with age and wear. Would it add more value to paper mod the switches to de-click them, or would more prospective buyers prefer the switches as-is, and mod it themselves if they prefer?

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abrahamstechnology

10 Apr 2020, 05:20

I'm frustrated with tactile Alps, every single switch I've tried felt like scratchy linears except for SKCM Brown (presumably from wear) but I have no way to rebend them so they are consistent or even accurate to how they were originally.

I did find a plant in China who can make new leaves at a reasonable price I can afford myself, but I am not sure if it's even worth it.

What kind of tactility do NOS tactile Alps put out? I was expecting something similar to a T1 but sharper and more tactile, but if it's barely noticeable I'm not even going to bother.

I've tried SKCM Orange, Salmon, Dampened Cream, and Brown (brown felt normal but the rest felt linear, even damped creams on the hardly-used keys felt like this) I understand scratchiness from dirt entering the switch but the magnitude of the tactile bump should still be noticeable?

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ddrfraser1

10 Apr 2020, 16:37

abrahamstechnology wrote:
10 Apr 2020, 05:20
I'm frustrated with tactile Alps, every single switch I've tried felt like scratchy linears except for SKCM Brown (presumably from wear) but I have no way to rebend them so they are consistent or even accurate to how they were originally.

I did find a plant in China who can make new leaves at a reasonable price I can afford myself, but I am not sure if it's even worth it.

What kind of tactility do NOS tactile Alps put out? I was expecting something similar to a T1 but sharper and more tactile, but if it's barely noticeable I'm not even going to bother.

I've tried SKCM Orange, Salmon, Dampened Cream, and Brown (brown felt normal but the rest felt linear, even damped creams on the hardly-used keys felt like this) I understand scratchiness from dirt entering the switch but the magnitude of the tactile bump should still be noticeable?
I can't speak to NOS as I've never tried it. I would be intrigued to hear how the new leafs work out. As far as my orange alps, when I got them, it took every switch apart, cleaned it and blew the dust out and lightly lubed the stems. I also tried Chyrosran22's trick of gently opening up the leaf with the side of a tooth pick to restore some of the lost tactility. I may have made one or two of them too tactile but just moved those leaves to less used keys. It still wasn't perfect, still a little scratchy, but on the whole, I was very pleased and now when I pull out my AEK, I have a hard time putting it away again :)

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abrahamstechnology

11 Apr 2020, 02:40

The thing is that is I can easily make them feel nice and tactile but I don't know if it's the "correct" tactility. Unless I can have access to a NOS tactile leaf (wondering if it's worth it or if Alps tactiles had this poor tactility out of the box)

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TheInverseKey

11 Apr 2020, 02:45

abrahamstechnology wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 02:40
The thing is that is I can easily make them feel nice and tactile but I don't know if it's the "correct" tactility. Unless I can have access to a NOS tactile leaf (wondering if it's worth it or if Alps tactiles had this poor tactility out of the box)
I don't quite understand your confusion about tactile switches. For example, have you tried paper modded Orange Alps?

I find that the tactile bump at the top is either on or off and if in good condition paper modded Orange Alps is one of the most tactile switches.

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snacksthecat
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11 Apr 2020, 04:28

Please permeate my plastic with your pigments.

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