Alps Appreciation

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ppCircle

18 Jun 2019, 21:20

//gainsborough wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 21:01
I just realized these are dampened creams and not actual SKCM creams =(

That really does suck.

edit: actually I can't really tell. What are they? I mean if they are legit SKCM creams I'd say you got a better deal than if they were browns. If they are dampened then yeah that's unfortunate.
Dampended creams, unfortunate. Anyway good find. I got fully working magnavox videowriter with that. Maybe next time im gonna find browns :mrgreen:

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

18 Jun 2019, 21:36

Lucky for you redmaus just found a bunch. I think he was going to be selling them at around $150 per 5140 (don't quote me on that through). Assuming you wanted to replace the switches, that is.

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

24 Jun 2019, 10:29

Check out the tactile leaf on this batch of undampened creams I found in a canon typewriter:

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Also the slider is insanely slippery. It slid out of my fingers multiple times when handling it!

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Chyros

24 Jun 2019, 10:51

Very interesting! That looks like a sharper angle I normally see. Also the base retainer seems bigger.

Btw, is that a ZKB-2? XD

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Wazrach

24 Jun 2019, 11:14

Chyros wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 10:51

Btw, is that a ZKB-2? XD
You nerd.

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

24 Jun 2019, 17:59

Chyros wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 10:51
Very interesting! That looks like a sharper angle I normally see. Also the base retainer seems bigger.
It is! Instead of having two tabs (top and bottom retainers) on each side of the tactile leaf, there is just a single long tab on each side! It's really neat amd actually does feel slightly different than normal!
Chyros wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 10:51
Btw, is that a ZKB-2? XD
It is indeed! Good eye!
Wazrach wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 11:14
You nerd.
Aren't we all? :lol:

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Chyros

24 Jun 2019, 19:39

Wazrach wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 11:14
Chyros wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 10:51

Btw, is that a ZKB-2? XD
You nerd.
Not that I could realistically deny that, but I did have one right in front of me when I was typing that xD .

Lbibass

11 Jul 2019, 19:32

I figured it was time to start sharing at least some of my collection with the gang here. Unfortunately, I don't have my DSLR with me, so you'll just be getting some iPhone pics.

The first board is a shot of my pristine Zenith 163-73-1. Got this sucker for a little under a hundred bucks. The plate had almost no dust on it, and the SKCL Yellows, while not my thing in terms of weighting are definitely smooth.
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This next board is my Zenith TurboSport 386 keyboard. Very nice, smooth, and light switches. Not nearly as well built as the 163, but I'll be damned if it's not a nice board too. Nice PBT Dyesubs, just like the 163-73-1. Except I prefer the 'subs on this one because sublegends are nice.
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The next board that I have with me is my Alps Electric made AT101 with pine blacks and doubleshots! :mrgreen:
While this board might be yellowed to hell, and the caps extremely worn, and the plate rusted, and the PCB dead... well I am working on fixing those. Ended up getting this sucker for 75 dollars with shipping. It was one of those 300-400 dollar boards on eBay, and I offered 150, half joking around. The seller ended up accepting, much to my surprise. It ended up not working, so I asked for a refund. Quite a good deal.
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Then there's my SGI Granite AT101 which I did a switch replacement for. I got this board for only ten dollars off of someone in The Board's Slack group. His wife was cleaning the board and grabbed the wrong cleaning solution. Acetone is not great for Dampened Whites and spacebars, I can tell you that. Some wet sanding and desoldering later, I have a VERY nice sounding, and looking, board.
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I have some other boards, like my Wang 724 with Blue Alps, my Chicony 5160, my three, (three, yikes!) M0116's, my two AEK I's, my NTC 6251 with White Alps, my Z150 with Brown Alps, my UEK with SKCL Greens (my own design), and my two AEKII's. I don't have them with me right now, unfortunately, so these are all the pics you all are going to get.

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

11 Jul 2019, 19:50

Impressive Lbibass, I'm jelly of the SGI and Zenith ZKB2. What's a UEK?

Lbibass

11 Jul 2019, 22:08

Redmaus wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 19:50
Impressive Lbibass, I'm jelly of the SGI and Zenith ZKB2. What's a UEK?
The UEK is a board of my own design.
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The SGI granite is one of my favorites, but unfortunately, the ESC stem broke somehow. And the Zenith isn't a zkb-2. It's not made by the company that made Chicony and Monterey boards, but Alps Electric. No shitty, thin doubleshot caps here. Only thicc dyesubs. 8-)

DaOver

16 Jul 2019, 22:33

Finally found a NOS Alps keyboard after several junk ones.
Apple AEKII with SKCM Alps White dampened.
I think I'm gonna desolder these switches for my ALPS64 build. (Since the 2nd GB run for those NOS SKCM White Alps did not go through :cry: )
I plan on click modding the tactile leaves and replacing the dampened stems with normal stems from some ALPS clones.

Keycaps are actually quite nice. PBT and a nice thickness. Font is ugly :D
Maybe if I get an ADB to PS2/USB converter I might solder some other switches into this board.
It's a quality chasis.

After typing for a while on it, feeling NOS ALPS switches for the first time, it finally confirmed my suspicions that my Focus FK-2001 still has pretty worn out click leaves even after I tried to clean the switches and lube them.
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Elrick

Yesterday, 05:39

DaOver wrote:
16 Jul 2019, 22:33
Finally found a NOS Alps keyboard after several junk ones.
Apple AEKII with SKCM Alps White dampened.
I think I'm gonna desolder these switches for my ALPS64 build. (Since the 2nd GB run for those NOS SKCM White Alps did not go through :cry: )
Stupefying CRIME to do that. This original keyboard is unique in it's condition and should be left alone to appreciate it's wonder.
DaOver wrote:
16 Jul 2019, 22:33
Keycaps are actually quite nice. PBT and a nice thickness. Font is ugly :D
It's a quality chasis.
You will appreciate the quality overall and if you think that old Apple fonts are ugly, then you've never looked at the current atrocities known as Corsair and Razer junk keyboard font's. That alone would have you regurgitating your morning cappuccino quite easily.

Leave the original Apple keyboard alone because they are extremely rare in that condition. It's like breaking down a perfect Pink Diamond for the ignorant, that don't appreciate quality over substance.

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

Yesterday, 05:55

DaOver wrote:
16 Jul 2019, 22:33
I think I'm gonna desolder these switches for my ALPS64 build. (Since the 2nd GB run for those NOS SKCM White Alps did not go through :cry: )
It's NIB my dude

cli

Yesterday, 09:44

DaOver wrote:
16 Jul 2019, 22:33
I plan on click modding the tactile leaves and replacing the dampened stems with normal stems from some ALPS clones.
I have click modded some black Alps, it's ok but pales next to clicky Alps white or blue switches.
It's like the Peugeot add https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50A9wjJ40Dk

My advice, have some patience and wait for someone selling their switches. Try putting a buying post on reddit.com/r/mechmarket.

DaOver

Yesterday, 10:45

Geez, it did not occur to me that the Apple AEKII would be regarded as a keyboard that needs to be preserved.
I thought it's the type of keyboard that was so mass produced it, that is pops up everywhere.
Also, I did not find much praise for the dampened ALPS switches. They also felt like a lackluster switches without the need to be preserved.

mcmaxmcmc

Yesterday, 11:07

DaOver wrote:
Yesterday, 10:45
Geez, it did not occur to me that the Apple AEKII would be regarded as a keyboard that needs to be preserved.
I thought it's the type of keyboard that was so mass produced it, that is pops up everywhere.
Also, I did not find much praise for the dampened ALPS switches. They also felt like a lackluster switches without the need to be preserved.
I think most hold a special case for new in box keyboards -- finding one after, what, 20 years is not common at all! Most would keep 'em just like that. :)

As for just the AEKII, in one in what I'd say "normal" condition (slightly yellow, a tad worn, like somebody used it for a bit) -- yeah, just desolder that. Nobody gives a damn. :twisted:

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Muirium
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Yesterday, 11:10

Here's some praise for damped Alps: I like them! Their tactility is fairly subtle, but much more tangible than the silly wee notch in MX brown. And the damping is great. Blue Alps are fun, but creams are switches I can really use, without a racket on either side of the stroke.

I actually prefer the AEK II to the orange Alps AEK I.

But that said, they're far from rare. They're like those Dell boards with black Alps: plentiful, but no one's making them any more. Ultimately, they'll all be gone, but there's many thousands still lying in boxes, for now.

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