Cherry 5000 Patent, inventors REVEALED

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 12:59

So I found the patent for the Cherry g80-5000 and it has the two inventors listed by name...maybe we should try to find them?^^

zoidbergslo · 17 Nov 2011, 13:32

Hmm anyone from this forum maybe?

fossala · 17 Nov 2011, 13:33

I think the chances are that are close to non.

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 13:43

Really interesting stuff pops up googling the people... Günter Murmann was appointed CEO of Cherry Europe in 2003.

He has announced his retirement last week, on the 11. Nov, 2011. Possibly we can contact him about an interview...I would be really interested to talk to him since he was around for a VERY long time with Cherry and was part of inventing the 5000.

Manfred Frank has headed his own Product design company since 1979, so I assume the g80-5000 was developed externally...they would have made the actual CAD designs and prototypes...who knows, maybe they even still have the files. I would love to know if Webwits v5000 is from them.

link: http://www.frank-formen.de/de/unternehmen.php

fossala · 17 Nov 2011, 14:05

Good work Detective Ascaii.

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 14:39

Browsing the european patents is just as interesting...a lot of the cherry patents are no longer effective due to them not paying the patenting fees. For example, they stopped paying the fees for the ergonomic keyboard patent in 2001.

fossala · 17 Nov 2011, 14:41

Do you have to carry on paying the patient office after you file it?

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 14:52

fossala wrote:Do you have to carry on paying the patient office after you file it?

A patent is always filed for a specific time. If you wish to renew or extend the patent you need to pay extra fees.

Gilgam · 17 Nov 2011, 16:32

this is why Patents Offices want to extend the range of patents, software etc. Just to have more money ...

sixty · 17 Nov 2011, 16:45

Interesting, this patent already shows the "retail" version. That must mean that webwit's prototype V80 is probably considerably older than even the first units used to register the patents.

ripster · 17 Nov 2011, 17:09

Patentanmeldung?

Oh. Dung means "application".

Nvm.

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 17:47

sixty wrote:Interesting, this patent already shows the "retail" version. That must mean that webwit's prototype V80 is probably considerably older than even the first units used to register the patents.

This is why im assuming it might have been manufactured at Frank Design...once they had the final design ready to present to Cherry, only then did they patent it.

Tarkoon · 17 Nov 2011, 18:38

Sorry, I was so angry, that I first wrote in german! ^^
I just wanted to say, that I hate it, that Cherry stopped producing the best keyboards...
The G80-5000 was really great: doubleshots, NKRO, tenkeyless and ergonomic!
Has someone of you one for sale? ^^

Original: Ich finde es so doof, dass Cherry die besten Modelle nicht mehr baut... =(
Die G80-5000 war so genial mit Doubleshots, NKRO, dann noch tenkeyless und ergonomisch!
Von euch hat nicht ggf. einer eine abzugeben? ^^

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 18:46

Tarkoon wrote:Sorry, I was so angry, that I first wrote in german! ^^
I just wanted to say, that I hate it, that Cherry stopped producing the best keyboards...
The G80-5000 was really great: doubleshots, NKRO, tenkeyless and ergonomic!
Has someone of you one for sale? ^^

Original: Ich finde es so doof, dass Cherry die besten Modelle nicht mehr baut... =(
Die G80-5000 war so genial mit Doubleshots, NKRO, dann noch tenkeyless und ergonomisch!
Von euch hat nicht ggf. einer eine abzugeben? ^^

Get in line, partner...I called dibs on the next german 5000 half a year ago xD

fossala · 17 Nov 2011, 19:42

Would you guys pick the g80-5000 or the M15?

sixty · 17 Nov 2011, 20:52

Really depends. I am not a buckling spring guy, so yes of course.

Either way, webwit will soon be here and tell all your mortal souls that none of these keyboards are ergonomic and that the only real solution is a datahand

webwit · 17 Nov 2011, 21:27

Disregarding my personal switch preference, the M15 is better.

cactux · 17 Nov 2011, 22:07

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fossala · 17 Nov 2011, 22:22

Have them all

Jim66 · 17 Nov 2011, 23:25

I know someone who might be selling an Italian G80-5000 some time soon...

Ascaii · 17 Nov 2011, 23:30

Jim66 wrote:I know someone who might be selling an Italian G80-5000 some time soon...

yes and I know I that certain someone was going to offer it to me first

Jim66 · 17 Nov 2011, 23:49

Ascaii wrote:
Jim66 wrote:I know someone who might be selling an Italian G80-5000 some time soon...
yes and I know I that certain someone was going to offer it to me first

He hasn't forgotten!

cactux · 20 Nov 2011, 03:10

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webwit · 20 Nov 2011, 03:43

The space bars are of adjustable length. They are custom for this keyboard, i.e. type "MX5000". My guess is the space bar stabilizers are custom jobs for this keyboard as well, to fit the custom space bars.

cactux · 20 Nov 2011, 04:32

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mintberryminuscrunch · 20 Nov 2011, 16:43

webwit wrote:The space bars are of adjustable length. They are custom for this keyboard, i.e. type "MX5000". My guess is the space bar stabilizers are custom jobs for this keyboard as well, to fit the custom space bars.

those were used in older G81s

Ascaii · 21 Jun 2012, 18:01

So it looks like I am finally getting my own g80-5000, thanks to Peter.

Bumping this, so anyone else interested can get the pdf.

Jim66 · 21 Jun 2012, 20:43

Congrats, I'm glad you've managed to find out at a decent price.