New office KB
- ShivaYash
- Location: de
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2 BT
- Main mouse: CH Products Trackball Pro
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Hello chaps,
Greetings from my new abode, Halle (Saale)
The helpful IT department here want to buy me a new mechanical KB. SO... what should I get? I can't think of anything I really want, that I do not already own.
I have already told them I have my own RF 87u waiting but they think its best they purchase one.
I use the IBM SSK on my home iMac, and a PFU HHKBPro2BT as my travel board.
I have a FILCO with Cherry MX Browns (my wife's old board) but I think I may sell this now...
My ideal would be something TKL, with heavy keys.
Yours,
SY
PS. What a nice problem to have on a Monday afternoon.
Greetings from my new abode, Halle (Saale)
The helpful IT department here want to buy me a new mechanical KB. SO... what should I get? I can't think of anything I really want, that I do not already own.
I have already told them I have my own RF 87u waiting but they think its best they purchase one.
I use the IBM SSK on my home iMac, and a PFU HHKBPro2BT as my travel board.
I have a FILCO with Cherry MX Browns (my wife's old board) but I think I may sell this now...
My ideal would be something TKL, with heavy keys.
Yours,
SY
PS. What a nice problem to have on a Monday afternoon.
- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
- Main mouse: Unbranded vertical mouse
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring | Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0196
I want to have an IT department like yours, damn.
You did not give any price boundary, so I recommend you to get a Model F.
You did not give any price boundary, so I recommend you to get a Model F.
- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
If they are going for it, get a new production Kishsaver F... yeah.
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
I second this as well, but you would have to wait several months. If the F spring are too light for you I suppose you could use springs from a Model M.pixelheresy wrote: ↑If they are going for it, get a new production Kishsaver F... yeah.
- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
- 0100010
- Location: DFW TX, US
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 107
- Main mouse: Trackman FX
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
I would love for the IT directors in my area to decide that all of their folks needed MKs. I can see a mass order from Unicomp for USB Model M 103s. Would be glorious.
- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
- Main mouse: Unbranded vertical mouse
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring | Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0196
That's what I was referring to, I omitted to specify exactly what I was talking about (todo: cut the gin). Thanks for the exact pointer. (Y)pixelheresy wrote: ↑If they are going for it, get a new production Kishsaver F... yeah.
- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0224
- Contact:
Meanwhile, around here, we are all expected to bring our own mouse and keyboard. "Hey, your laptop has an integrated keeb and a touch pad!". And whatever keyboards we may bring MUST be silent (this is an "open office plan", after all).0100010 wrote: ↑I would love for the IT directors in my area to decide that all of their folks needed MKs. I can see a mass order from Unicomp for USB Model M 103s. Would be glorious.
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
If my office imposes that restriction I swear I will bring in a beamspring that dings a bell every time I typedepletedvespene wrote: ↑Meanwhile, around here, we are all expected to bring our own mouse and keyboard. "Hey, your laptop has an integrated keeb and a touch pad!". And whatever keyboards we may bring MUST be silent (this is an "open office plan", after all).0100010 wrote: ↑I would love for the IT directors in my area to decide that all of their folks needed MKs. I can see a mass order from Unicomp for USB Model M 103s. Would be glorious.
- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0224
- Contact:
You're tempting me to get a Matias Silent and adding (subreptitiously) a solenoid to it. Then activating it... every now and then... randomly, to make everyone go nuts.
I'd get fired, surely, and would not be able to complain about it.
I'd get fired, surely, and would not be able to complain about it.
- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
I work in an open plan, but slightly differently. They have some very standard but ok Logitech wired mice available and droves of flat aluminium Apple keyboards for anyone, but if people want to bring their own, they are free to, so long as the team is cool with it.depletedvespene wrote: ↑ Meanwhile, around here, we are all expected to bring our own mouse and keyboard. "Hey, your laptop has an integrated keeb and a touch pad!". And whatever keyboards we may bring MUST be silent (this is an "open office plan", after all).
Most dev teams have headphones on most of the day, so generally speaking, it isn't a big deal. One team is kind of getting into mech boards (I think I may have contributed to that) and they basically are all sporting Blue switches.
- zslane
- Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
- Main keyboard: RealForce RGB
- Main mouse: Basic Microsoft USB mouse
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
1. IMO, a Model F remake isn't worth getting excited over unless it is using the earlier capacitive buckling spring mechanism. Otherwise it's just a crappy Model M with a different layout.
2. If your coworkers don't have any problem with the noise a buckling spring keyboard makes, then you should feel free to use one at work regardless of the official company policy.
3. OTOH, if your coworkers are bothered by the noise a buckling spring keyboard makes, then you should keep it at home even if the official company policy does not prohibit noisy keyboards.
4. Just have your IT department buy you a RealForce 87U and be done with it.
2. If your coworkers don't have any problem with the noise a buckling spring keyboard makes, then you should feel free to use one at work regardless of the official company policy.
3. OTOH, if your coworkers are bothered by the noise a buckling spring keyboard makes, then you should keep it at home even if the official company policy does not prohibit noisy keyboards.
4. Just have your IT department buy you a RealForce 87U and be done with it.
- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
It is... that's what is exciting. It is basically a true-blue F, in terms of how the barrels/flippers work with a capacitive PCB (and even uses xwhatsit's board as the controller, so it is fully programmable and can be calibrated). Certain clips are metal rather than plastic, etc. Basically they took on the task of making a new production F that would fit the bill for people who would like/buy a Model F and cherish it. I think this is a good strategy, since if you are going to make a 300-400$ keyboard, you want it to last forever and have all the features vintage keyboard hobbyists would want.zslane wrote: ↑1. IMO, a Model F remake isn't worth getting excited over unless it is using the earlier capacitive buckling spring mechanism. Otherwise it's just a crappy Model M with a different layout.
*IF* you like Topre.zslane wrote: ↑4. Just have your IT department buy you a RealForce 87U and be done with it.
- zslane
- Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
- Main keyboard: RealForce RGB
- Main mouse: Basic Microsoft USB mouse
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Not as exciting as resurrecting beam spring switches, but okay, at least these buckling spring switches aren't the abominably cheap Model M variety. Pity these are only available in a "saver" model, and not an F122...pixelheresy wrote: ↑ It is... that's what is exciting. It is basically a true-blue F, in terms of how the barrels/flippers work with a capacitive PCB (and even uses xwhatsit's board as the controller, so it is fully programmable and can be calibrated).
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
Here is one for sale.0100010 wrote: ↑Check if Orihalcyon (sp?) still has any original 4704 F107s available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-IBM-Mod ... SwrzdZnuNU
- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
Beamsprings are definitely cool, but I couldn't imagine typing on that tall of a keyboard all day I personally love buckling springs (and heavier switches), so the new Kishsaver is on the "justify buying this to my wife" list.
The Topre crack was just that... a joke. Not my cup of tea, but they are very smooth and nice. I would take it in a heartbeat over basically any other rubber dome and mechanical switches I dislike, like Cherry MX Red or Brown, Cherry ML, etc.
The Topre crack was just that... a joke. Not my cup of tea, but they are very smooth and nice. I would take it in a heartbeat over basically any other rubber dome and mechanical switches I dislike, like Cherry MX Red or Brown, Cherry ML, etc.
- zslane
- Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
- Main keyboard: RealForce RGB
- Main mouse: Basic Microsoft USB mouse
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
You make a good point.pixelheresy wrote: ↑Beamsprings are definitely cool, but I couldn't imagine typing on that tall of a keyboard all day
If someone ever does revive beam spring switches (it could happen...who would ever have thought Hall Effect switches would go back into production in this day and age?), we'll just need to invest in fat wrist rests and desktops with recessed wells for the keyboard.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
Since you apparently like Topre, and said "My ideal would be something TKL, with heavy keys," I suggest a RF TKL 55g edition.
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Truly Ergonomic
- Main mouse: Nothing special
- Favorite switch: MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
http://www.keyboardco.com/ is shipping to Germany.
- ShivaYash
- Location: de
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2 BT
- Main mouse: CH Products Trackball Pro
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Thxteck22 wrote:http://www.keyboardco.com/ is shipping to Germany.
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- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
Holy shit! 55g is heavy? I guess you have to go as heavy as you can...Techno Trousers wrote: ↑Since you apparently like Topre, and said "My ideal would be something TKL, with heavy keys," I suggest a RF TKL 55g edition.
- pixelheresy
- Location: Åland
- Main keyboard: Pok3r Vortex (work); IBM Model M (home)
- Main mouse: Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring; Alps SKCM Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
So what was the verdict? Did you order something?
- ShivaYash
- Location: de
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2 BT
- Main mouse: CH Products Trackball Pro
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Sorry, I made a typo. I opted for the Topre YK2100. It’s a 45g switch but the hipro caps are lovely. Something I’ve wanted for a long time. The full size is annoying as I’m a TKL man but oh well.
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