IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

79f0167

02 Oct 2021, 11:54

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I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
Last edited by 79f0167 on 03 Oct 2021, 00:27, edited 4 times in total.

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Muirium
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02 Oct 2021, 14:10

LED inside cap: nice vintage touch!

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Lalaland124

02 Oct 2021, 16:14

Can you post a picture of the keycap mount? Guessing more info is on the PCB of the board if you happen to take it apart.

Looks very interesting, haven't seen these before but looks kinda Fujitsu-ish to me

Edit: didn't see that there is already a keycap in the picture my bad
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hellothere

02 Oct 2021, 18:03

Yah. I'm interested in hearing more, too.

79f0167

02 Oct 2021, 23:59

Lalaland124 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 16:14
Can you post a picture of the keycap mount? Guessing more info is on the PCB of the board if you happen to take it apart.

Looks very interesting, haven't seen these before but looks kinda Fujitsu-ish to me

Edit: didn't see that there is already a keycap in the picture my bad
Thanks, but i couldn't get any info from pcb :|

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Lalaland124

03 Oct 2021, 00:07

79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 23:59
Lalaland124 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 16:14
Can you post a picture of the keycap mount? Guessing more info is on the PCB of the board if you happen to take it apart.

Looks very interesting, haven't seen these before but looks kinda Fujitsu-ish to me

Edit: didn't see that there is already a keycap in the picture my bad
Thanks, but i couldn't get any info from pcb :|
Hmm, aren't there any labels/numbers on the case or PCB?

79f0167

03 Oct 2021, 00:21

Numbers on PCB

Front:KKBU-,FMX-12513,051719,00517
Back:12513

79f0167

03 Oct 2021, 00:24

Seller sayd "I think it's Telex Teletype machine"

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Lalaland124

03 Oct 2021, 00:39

79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 11:54
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I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?

79f0167

03 Oct 2021, 00:46

Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:39
79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 11:54
switch.JPG
spring

I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?
Thanks info.
I'll disassemble and get more :maverick:

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Lalaland124

03 Oct 2021, 00:49

79f0167 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:46
Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:39
79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 11:54
switch.JPG
spring

I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?
Thanks info.
I'll disassemble and get more :maverick:

Awesome, could it be a version of this?
viewtopic.php?t=24681

79f0167

03 Oct 2021, 00:58

Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:49
79f0167 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:46
Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:39


So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?
Thanks info.
I'll disassemble and get more :maverick:

Awesome, could it be a version of this?
viewtopic.php?t=24681
surely
Some keys are very similar

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june bug

05 Oct 2021, 05:16

does anyone recognize these switches? they look a little dome with slider-y but idk
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zrrion

05 Oct 2021, 05:54

that's an NEC switch, don't remember the name of it (and it doesn't appear to be on the wiki) should have caps compatible with other NEC switches as well as ALPS SKFR switches

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june bug

05 Oct 2021, 06:39

zrrion wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 05:54
that's an NEC switch, don't remember the name of it (and it doesn't appear to be on the wiki) should have caps compatible with other NEC switches as well as ALPS SKFR switches
interesting, thanks!

xxhellfirexx

05 Oct 2021, 08:22

june bug wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 05:16
does anyone recognize these switches? they look a little dome with slider-y but idk
The same switch type was posted earlier.
HerbalNekoTea wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 04:38
Hi guys, i am not a really a big forum poster but i am fairly actif in the discord. So i recently received my sixth Yahoo Auction Japan. I need to send my seventh one soon. So, this order had a lot of fucking switch who are fucking wild one, 2 unknow not on the wiki but one's from a know series, idk if that the one which was missing but we had the model number. The other one's a wild unknow one with super quality vintage board.

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Palatino

06 Oct 2021, 10:22

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Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.

ollir

06 Oct 2021, 15:07

Palatino wrote:
06 Oct 2021, 10:22
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Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.
The first and only thing that I can think of is the NEC APC-H412, which would be the NEC blue ovals but I'm not sure this is it. The contour (is that even remotely the right word for this?) on the case below the caps looks sharper than on the NEC, but it might be the lighting. Would need more of the image to tell for sure.

4_404

07 Oct 2021, 01:04

Palatino wrote:
06 Oct 2021, 10:22
03C1127E-AD27-4A6C-BBED-221B90E9145F.jpeg

Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.
This layout is also on the Qtronix QX201, which usually has either MX blue or SKCM blue, as far as I know.

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TNT

11 Oct 2021, 18:13

Anyone here recognize this? Most probably F&F, right?
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inozenz

11 Oct 2021, 19:16

TNT wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 18:13
Anyone here recognize this? Most probably F&F, right?

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this looks really weird and not like foam and foil to me

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TNT

11 Oct 2021, 19:40

inozenz wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 19:16
this looks really weird and not like foam and foil to me
I can't find anything on the wiki. Maybe it's an unique design by this west-german company, but the keycaps give me strong trashy-f&f vibes, can't really say why ...

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TNT

11 Oct 2021, 21:06

Some people on the Discord suggested it might be some dome with slider board. Thanks for the input!

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Palatino

11 Oct 2021, 22:54

4_404 wrote:
07 Oct 2021, 01:04
Palatino wrote:
06 Oct 2021, 10:22
03C1127E-AD27-4A6C-BBED-221B90E9145F.jpeg

Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.
This layout is also on the Qtronix QX201, which usually has either MX blue or SKCM blue, as far as I know.
Thank you - QX201 is a pretty exact fit in looks. I’ve bought it now, so hopefully it’s the right sort of blue :D

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Palatino

11 Oct 2021, 22:57

TNT wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 19:40
inozenz wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 19:16
this looks really weird and not like foam and foil to me
I can't find anything on the wiki. Maybe it's an unique design by this west-german company, but the keycaps give me strong trashy-f&f vibes, can't really say why ...


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That arrow cluster makes me feel queasy just looking at it. Nice grey lettering, though. Are you in a position to buy it and discover what the switch really is?

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TNT

11 Oct 2021, 23:24

Palatino wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 22:57

That arrow cluster makes me feel queasy just looking at it. Nice grey lettering, though. Are you in a position to buy it and discover what the switch really is?
I am, but I am still undecided whether or not I should. The board is pretty unique and probably rare, but if it's not enjoyable to use ...

Yeah, the arrow cluster is something else :lol:

inozenz

12 Oct 2021, 08:16

TNT wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 23:24
Palatino wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 22:57

That arrow cluster makes me feel queasy just looking at it. Nice grey lettering, though. Are you in a position to buy it and discover what the switch really is?
I am, but I am still undecided whether or not I should. The board is pretty unique and probably rare, but if it's not enjoyable to use ...

Yeah, the arrow cluster is something else :lol:
if its not too expencive go for it and if you dont like it sell its for the same price ;)

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Palatino

12 Oct 2021, 11:50

This is my philosophy - except I forget to sell things on. I’m stock-rich but money-poor. There’s no liquidity in my operation: good news for the keyboards at least.

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Muirium
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12 Oct 2021, 12:22

(Might want to sell some of that stock of yours then…)

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TNT

12 Oct 2021, 12:47

Palatino wrote:
12 Oct 2021, 11:50
This is my philosophy - except I forget to sell things on. I’m stock-rich but money-poor. There’s no liquidity in my operation: good news for the keyboards at least.
I feel you :lol:

Just bought the board, it looks fancy enough and the seller gave me a price cut. 30 bucks including shipping is not too bad for an interesting board.

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