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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 03:46
by //gainsborough
chip chop tipped me in on this board on ebay. I was expecting alps but got this instead. Has anyone ever seen this switch before? It's linear - and in fact I thought it was alps before removing a cap.

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 03:51
by Muirium
Maybe Hosiden?

wiki/Hosiden_switch

Can't say I've heard of them. Just the closest to a match I can spot on the Wiki's switch ID gallery. The notch at the top was for LEDs…
Spoiler:
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 04:32
by //gainsborough
That looks the same to me, thanks! I'll read up on them a bit!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 20:17
by digital_matthew
I recently bought this keyboard hoping for Alps, but no dice (I think). The switches are very clicky and rather course. Not terrible, but not great. The keycaps are pretty nice. They're double-shot MX mounts. Any idea as to what the switches are?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 23:21
by ZedTheMan
digital_matthew wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 20:17
I recently bought this keyboard hoping for Alps, but no dice (I think). The switches are very clicky and rather course. Not terrible, but not great. The keycaps are pretty nice. They're double-shot MX mounts. Any idea as to what the switches are?
Hi! I ended up getting one of these just recently as well. It's a shame, I was also hoping for Alps. It's Deyi Clicky Foam and Foil, and unfortunately for me the keyboard didn't even properly function because Foam and Foil fails over time.

I just scrapped it and kept the caps and the dust cover that came with it.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 00:20
by zrrion
The caps look fun though so its not all bad.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 00:24
by TNT
Hi guys,

this is my first post here and I hope I'll have a good time and learn a lot on this forum.

To the cause. I'm dreaming of modifying an old Nixdorf Softkeys to work on a modern computer. I know people tried it and didn't manage to get it working, but since some other guys managed to successfully rewire the weird 6 pin DIN plug on other keyboards I wan't to give it a try myself. I don't care much for the Nixie-switches or rather can not afford them tho...
While searching the internet I stumbled upon a Nixdorf board with those weird switches that I struggle to identify. They seem to have a weird, very distinct shape. Maybe you guys can help out? Because of the keycaps they're probably similar to MXs, right?

I'm sorry for the terrible image quality. Those are just the pics from the seller and that's all he got so far.

Cheers in advance.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 00:48
by Muirium
Looks to be related to this:

wiki/Nixdorf_SM_8890

Those switches are most definitely *not* MX!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 01:09
by TNT
Oh my, how could I not see this. That's the first thing to look up. :oops:

Sorry and thanks a bunch!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 01:29
by Muirium
Hey, no worries. I’ve never seen them before either. Nixdorf made quality kit, right down to their custom clear topped MX switches. But the board you’re looking at is a different beast.

Anyone know what those feel like?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 02:26
by digital_matthew
ZedTheMan wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 23:21
digital_matthew wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 20:17
I recently bought this keyboard hoping for Alps, but no dice (I think). The switches are very clicky and rather course. Not terrible, but not great. The keycaps are pretty nice. They're double-shot MX mounts. Any idea as to what the switches are?
Hi! I ended up getting one of these just recently as well. It's a shame, I was also hoping for Alps. It's Deyi Clicky Foam and Foil, and unfortunately for me the keyboard didn't even properly function because Foam and Foil fails over time.

I just scrapped it and kept the caps and the dust cover that came with it.
Thanks! I thought some fellow Deskthorians would have bought one of these. Actually this one works just fine. I have better keyboards, so I'm not sure what to do with this one. If anyone is interested in the keycaps please let me know.
zrrion wrote:
16 Jan 2019, 00:20
The caps look fun though so its not all bad.
Yep, they're the FK layout, which is my favorite. Bigass Enter with the pipe next to the right Shift key.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 11:16
by Chyros
TNT wrote:
16 Jan 2019, 00:24
Hi guys,

this is my first post here and I hope I'll have a good time and learn a lot on this forum.

To the cause. I'm dreaming of modifying an old Nixdorf Softkeys to work on a modern computer. I know people tried it and didn't manage to get it working, but since some other guys managed to successfully rewire the weird 6 pin DIN plug on other keyboards I wan't to give it a try myself. I don't care much for the Nixie-switches or rather can not afford them tho...
While searching the internet I stumbled upon a Nixdorf board with those weird switches that I struggle to identify. They seem to have a weird, very distinct shape. Maybe you guys can help out? Because of the keycaps they're probably similar to MXs, right?

I'm sorry for the terrible image quality. Those are just the pics from the seller and that's all he got so far.

Cheers in advance.
They're Nixdorf magnetic valve. The Nixie MX-type switches were found in other models.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 15:17
by JP!
Here's an interesting one. Switches are super smooth and linear.
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:43
by Chyros
Looks like Key Tronic magnetic reed or a clone (caps look KT though), or possibly their block-mount foam and foil switches.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 00:38
by JP!
Another odd one. Edit: This keyboard goes with an Amiga 1000.
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 00:56
by Noobmaen
Mitsumi standard mechanical

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 01:06
by JP!
Noobmaen wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 00:56
Mitsumi standard mechanical
Oh thanks! Never seen one or tried in person so I'll see if I can find a review. I probably won't pick this one up unless someone has interest. Also that board sure does have a funky layout.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 01:08
by Chyros
You might want to give them a try if you like tactile switches. Mistumi standard aren't bad from what I've tried, and that board looks like it's not that dirty (just banana'd).

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 01:20
by JP!
Actually I love how the spacebar and case are color coordinated.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 02:17
by abrahamstechnology
What Alps (or clones) are these?
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 09:00
by mcmaxmcmc
abrahamstechnology wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 02:17
What Alps (or clones) are these?
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Seems like plain old Yellow Alps to me. I believe some of them can come without the LED cutout.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 15:04
by kakan
mcmaxmcmc wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 09:00
abrahamstechnology wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 02:17
What Alps (or clones) are these?
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Seems like plain old Yellow Alps to me. I believe some of them can come without the LED cutout.
If that is from the taobao guy that sells alps I think someone bought them and they were clones. I might be mistaken tho.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 16:40
by abrahamstechnology
kakan wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 15:04
mcmaxmcmc wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 09:00
abrahamstechnology wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 02:17
What Alps (or clones) are these?
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Seems like plain old Yellow Alps to me. I believe some of them can come without the LED cutout.
If that is from the taobao guy that sells alps I think someone bought them and they were clones. I might be mistaken tho.
Know if they are clicky, tactile or linear?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 16:58
by kakan
abrahamstechnology wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 16:40
kakan wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 15:04
mcmaxmcmc wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 09:00


Seems like plain old Yellow Alps to me. I believe some of them can come without the LED cutout.
If that is from the taobao guy that sells alps I think someone bought them and they were clones. I might be mistaken tho.
Know if they are clicky, tactile or linear?
I might be wrong, you should pm Drclick. Have you contacted the seller if they have any SKCLFQ left?
Drclick wrote:
11 Apr 2018, 14:27
My order arrived today. They are ALPS linear yellow switches(SKCLFQ).
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The seller also have the other two kinds of Fuhua ALPS switches, Yellow(soft linear) and Black(tactile). But they are all later simplified version.
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 18:13
by JP!
Chyros wrote:
21 Jan 2019, 16:43
Looks like Key Tronic magnetic reed or a clone (caps look KT though), or possibly their block-mount foam and foil switches.
Looks like Key Tronic magnetic reed variant #2. I believe this is now the oldest keyboard in my collection since this teleterm seems to date to around 1973. I plan to do a full teardown and clean up of this one.
wiki/Key_Tronic_magnetic_reed
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 18:58
by Kacperum
I recently found a Facit 7800 electronic typewriter. I searched for it on the web but no useful information came up. The switches are quite tactile. The caps are double shot. It says "made in Japan" on the keyboard module. Any Idea as to what the switches could be? I can provide more pictures if it's necessary.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 19:24
by Lbibass
Kacperum wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 18:58
I recently found a Facit 7800 electronic typewriter. I searched for it on the web but no useful information came up. The switches are quite tactile. The caps are double shot. It says "made in Japan" on the keyboard module. Any Idea as to what the switches could be? I can provide more pictures if it's necessary.
Looks like NEC Vintage linear. wiki/NEC_vintage_linear

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 01:02
by Kacperum
Lbibass wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 19:24
Kacperum wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 18:58
I recently found a Facit 7800 electronic typewriter. I searched for it on the web but no useful information came up. The switches are quite tactile. The caps are double shot. It says "made in Japan" on the keyboard module. Any Idea as to what the switches could be? I can provide more pictures if it's necessary.
Looks like NEC Vintage linear. wiki/NEC_vintage_linear
Not likely since they're tactile.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 01:06
by abrahamstechnology
JP! wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 18:13

Additionally there is a single switch with a light bulb.
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Looks like Logitech ripped off this idea.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 19 Mar 2019, 10:19
by uttindar
Received old CodeGen Technologies keyboard (FCC HMN2YZ) with linear amber four-tab clones:

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Are those alps.tw Type T8?
Some switches have S:#A## mould numbering and some other are S:#C## (as on the picture)