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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 11:54
by 79f0167
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I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 14:10
by Muirium
LED inside cap: nice vintage touch!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 16:14
by Lalaland124
Can you post a picture of the keycap mount? Guessing more info is on the PCB of the board if you happen to take it apart.

Looks very interesting, haven't seen these before but looks kinda Fujitsu-ish to me

Edit: didn't see that there is already a keycap in the picture my bad

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 18:03
by hellothere
Yah. I'm interested in hearing more, too.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 02 Oct 2021, 23:59
by 79f0167
Lalaland124 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 16:14
Can you post a picture of the keycap mount? Guessing more info is on the PCB of the board if you happen to take it apart.

Looks very interesting, haven't seen these before but looks kinda Fujitsu-ish to me

Edit: didn't see that there is already a keycap in the picture my bad
Thanks, but i couldn't get any info from pcb :|

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:07
by Lalaland124
79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 23:59
Lalaland124 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 16:14
Can you post a picture of the keycap mount? Guessing more info is on the PCB of the board if you happen to take it apart.

Looks very interesting, haven't seen these before but looks kinda Fujitsu-ish to me

Edit: didn't see that there is already a keycap in the picture my bad
Thanks, but i couldn't get any info from pcb :|
Hmm, aren't there any labels/numbers on the case or PCB?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:21
by 79f0167
Numbers on PCB

Front:KKBU-,FMX-12513,051719,00517
Back:12513

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:24
by 79f0167
Seller sayd "I think it's Telex Teletype machine"

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:39
by Lalaland124
79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 11:54
switch.JPG
spring

I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:46
by 79f0167
Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:39
79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 11:54
switch.JPG
spring

I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?
Thanks info.
I'll disassemble and get more :maverick:

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:49
by Lalaland124
79f0167 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:46
Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:39
79f0167 wrote:
02 Oct 2021, 11:54
switch.JPG
spring

I don't know what switch are these.
But it's so good clicky like as beamspring.
So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?
Thanks info.
I'll disassemble and get more :maverick:

Awesome, could it be a version of this?
viewtopic.php?t=24681

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 00:58
by 79f0167
Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:49
79f0167 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:46
Lalaland124 wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 00:39


So by running the numbers and doing a very rough translation of the stickers you can find this:

1) Fukuchiyama Telegraph and Telephone Bureau = linked to a company called Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which we know as Nippon Electric (NEC)

2) the KKBU- number seems familiar, I could be totally wrong but reminds me of some Mitsumi boards, which wouldn't make sense if the boards from NEC I guess?
Thanks info.
I'll disassemble and get more :maverick:

Awesome, could it be a version of this?
viewtopic.php?t=24681
surely
Some keys are very similar

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 05:16
by june bug
does anyone recognize these switches? they look a little dome with slider-y but idk

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 05:54
by zrrion
that's an NEC switch, don't remember the name of it (and it doesn't appear to be on the wiki) should have caps compatible with other NEC switches as well as ALPS SKFR switches

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 06:39
by june bug
zrrion wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 05:54
that's an NEC switch, don't remember the name of it (and it doesn't appear to be on the wiki) should have caps compatible with other NEC switches as well as ALPS SKFR switches
interesting, thanks!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 08:22
by xxhellfirexx
june bug wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 05:16
does anyone recognize these switches? they look a little dome with slider-y but idk
The same switch type was posted earlier.
HerbalNekoTea wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 04:38
Hi guys, i am not a really a big forum poster but i am fairly actif in the discord. So i recently received my sixth Yahoo Auction Japan. I need to send my seventh one soon. So, this order had a lot of fucking switch who are fucking wild one, 2 unknow not on the wiki but one's from a know series, idk if that the one which was missing but we had the model number. The other one's a wild unknow one with super quality vintage board.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 06 Oct 2021, 10:22
by Palatino
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Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 06 Oct 2021, 15:07
by ollir
Palatino wrote:
06 Oct 2021, 10:22
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Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.
The first and only thing that I can think of is the NEC APC-H412, which would be the NEC blue ovals but I'm not sure this is it. The contour (is that even remotely the right word for this?) on the case below the caps looks sharper than on the NEC, but it might be the lighting. Would need more of the image to tell for sure.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 01:04
by 4_404
Palatino wrote:
06 Oct 2021, 10:22
03C1127E-AD27-4A6C-BBED-221B90E9145F.jpeg

Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.
This layout is also on the Qtronix QX201, which usually has either MX blue or SKCM blue, as far as I know.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 18:13
by TNT
Anyone here recognize this? Most probably F&F, right?
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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 19:16
by inozenz
TNT wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 18:13
Anyone here recognize this? Most probably F&F, right?

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this looks really weird and not like foam and foil to me

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 19:40
by TNT
inozenz wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 19:16
this looks really weird and not like foam and foil to me
I can't find anything on the wiki. Maybe it's an unique design by this west-german company, but the keycaps give me strong trashy-f&f vibes, can't really say why ...

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 21:06
by TNT
Some people on the Discord suggested it might be some dome with slider board. Thanks for the input!

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 22:54
by Palatino
4_404 wrote:
07 Oct 2021, 01:04
Palatino wrote:
06 Oct 2021, 10:22
03C1127E-AD27-4A6C-BBED-221B90E9145F.jpeg

Does this bottom row layout (1.75u control and alt, 9u space bar, then 1.75u alt and control, no gaps at all) suggest anything about the likely switches? I think the rest of the board is “normal” layout, ie like a Model M, not XT or AT. I forget the right term for that.
This layout is also on the Qtronix QX201, which usually has either MX blue or SKCM blue, as far as I know.
Thank you - QX201 is a pretty exact fit in looks. I’ve bought it now, so hopefully it’s the right sort of blue :D

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 22:57
by Palatino
TNT wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 19:40
inozenz wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 19:16
this looks really weird and not like foam and foil to me
I can't find anything on the wiki. Maybe it's an unique design by this west-german company, but the keycaps give me strong trashy-f&f vibes, can't really say why ...


$_57.JPG
That arrow cluster makes me feel queasy just looking at it. Nice grey lettering, though. Are you in a position to buy it and discover what the switch really is?

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 23:24
by TNT
Palatino wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 22:57

That arrow cluster makes me feel queasy just looking at it. Nice grey lettering, though. Are you in a position to buy it and discover what the switch really is?
I am, but I am still undecided whether or not I should. The board is pretty unique and probably rare, but if it's not enjoyable to use ...

Yeah, the arrow cluster is something else :lol:

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 08:16
by inozenz
TNT wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 23:24
Palatino wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 22:57

That arrow cluster makes me feel queasy just looking at it. Nice grey lettering, though. Are you in a position to buy it and discover what the switch really is?
I am, but I am still undecided whether or not I should. The board is pretty unique and probably rare, but if it's not enjoyable to use ...

Yeah, the arrow cluster is something else :lol:
if its not too expencive go for it and if you dont like it sell its for the same price ;)

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 11:50
by Palatino
This is my philosophy - except I forget to sell things on. I’m stock-rich but money-poor. There’s no liquidity in my operation: good news for the keyboards at least.

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 12:22
by Muirium
(Might want to sell some of that stock of yours then…)

Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYSWITCH thread

Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 12:47
by TNT
Palatino wrote:
12 Oct 2021, 11:50
This is my philosophy - except I forget to sell things on. I’m stock-rich but money-poor. There’s no liquidity in my operation: good news for the keyboards at least.
I feel you :lol:

Just bought the board, it looks fancy enough and the seller gave me a price cut. 30 bucks including shipping is not too bad for an interesting board.