Re: Some bolt modding questions
Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 22:10
clickykeyboards wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 13:25Some videos and photos that we have made in the past few years about IBM model M cleaning, disassembly and putting it all back together.
Inside look: Restoring and rebuilding a 32-year-old IBM model M
https://www.facebook.com/ClickyKeyboard ... 02500130/
Proudly restored by hand.
https://www.facebook.com/ClickyKeyboard ... 608841203/
3 hours well spent. Repairing an 84-key 1987 model M SSK in 2018
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ClickyKeybo ... 8426026203
Those videos are old and not as in depth as the one i have recommendedJP! wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 22:32clickykeyboards wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 13:25Some videos and photos that we have made in the past few years about IBM model M cleaning, disassembly and putting it all back together.
Inside look: Restoring and rebuilding a 32-year-old IBM model M
https://www.facebook.com/ClickyKeyboard ... 02500130/
Proudly restored by hand.
https://www.facebook.com/ClickyKeyboard ... 608841203/
3 hours well spent. Repairing an 84-key 1987 model M SSK in 2018
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ClickyKeybo ... 8426026203
Ah I see.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 22:35Those videos are old and not as in depth as the one i have recommended
That is what i have found aswell, when i bolt mod my model m i am also converting it to ISO. I have just compiled what i think is best information from many different guides. The video i recommended is very good in my opinion. I have never seen anyone else recommend it and i just happened to come by it by chance i was not even searching for anything related to bolt modding at the time but the design of the wheel writer 3 is near identical to the model m just with less rivets and the person in the video explains the process very well.Lots of little nuggets of information spread all over the web it seems.
I didn't actually watch that video yet as the sound on my main desktop is no longer working.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 22:53That is what i have found aswell, when i bolt mod my model m i am also converting it to ISO. I have just compiled what i think is best information from many different guides. The video i recommended is very good in my opinion. I have never seen anyone else recommend it and i just happened to come by it by chance i was not even searching for anything related to bolt modding at the time but the design of the wheel writer 3 is near identical to the model m just with less rivets and the person in the video explains the process very well.Lots of little nuggets of information spread all over the web it seems.
No worries, i would highly recommend it though for anyone bolt modding their ibm its a very good instructional video. Helped me figure out my plan i mostly stole his method but its cause everything he uses is available to me i just use different hardware as i can get the ones in the geekhack guide in a local shop.JP! wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 23:00I didn't actually watch that video yet as the sound on my main desktop is no longer working.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 22:53That is what i have found aswell, when i bolt mod my model m i am also converting it to ISO. I have just compiled what i think is best information from many different guides. The video i recommended is very good in my opinion. I have never seen anyone else recommend it and i just happened to come by it by chance i was not even searching for anything related to bolt modding at the time but the design of the wheel writer 3 is near identical to the model m just with less rivets and the person in the video explains the process very well.Lots of little nuggets of information spread all over the web it seems.
Also generally the process from various guides is similar with differing opinions on what hardware to use and the method for starting pilot holes prior to drilling.
I am only going to be bolt modding one board, i thought of making a jig but i do not have access to a drill press so i will just have to use a hand drill. In the video i recommended the guy uses a pointy file to make pilot holes and it looked like it worked so i am going to give it a shot.JP! wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 23:08One other thing I just though of. If you are doing many of these bolt mods I think ideally you would want some kind of jig to keep the barrel plate perfectly flat and well supported. Then you would need some sort of drill press to ensure no holes are drilled at an angle. I'm not sure about starting pilot holes though.
Having done at least a dozen of these, I will reiterate my earlier recommendations based on my experience.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 23:44
I am only going to be bolt modding one board, i thought of making a jig but i do not have access to a drill press so i will just have to use a hand drill. In the video i recommended the guy uses a pointy file to make pilot holes and it looked like it worked so i am going to give it a shot.
I have neither a dremel or rotary tool i was looking at investing in one but decided againsted it as most the reviews for dremels on amazon or local shops said they would break with in the first month. Instead i have a small little hand drill like the one picturedfohat wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 15:59Having done at least a dozen of these, I will reiterate my earlier recommendations based on my experience.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 23:44
I am only going to be bolt modding one board, i thought of making a jig but i do not have access to a drill press so i will just have to use a hand drill. In the video i recommended the guy uses a pointy file to make pilot holes and it looked like it worked so i am going to give it a shot.
If you have a Dremel or rotary tool, it is far easier to use that, 2-handed, with your face in close (safety glasses, please) on the slowest setting. Leave the shafts as long as possible for better alignment. And seriously, the tiny spherical burr tip is by far the most manageable way to make starter divots.
Yeah, as long as the barrel plate isn't flexing when you drill, you should be alright. At least with the Model F bolt mod, cracking wasn't a concern.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 16:09i plan to use this. I may or may not make a little jig to hold the barrel plate
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So it turns out my dad had a dremel and he is letting me use it for the bolt mod, although when i dug it out it had none of the pieces he said he may have put them away some where else, so i have ordered the multi purpose chuck, 100 piece muti purpose tool accessory kit. Which attachment should i use to grind down the posts on the switch plate. i have only done a few with the hand file i have but the file is not completely flat so its making the posts domed. i was thinking the smallest sand paper piece would do.Also which attachment should i use to make little guide holes for the drill bit.fohat wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 15:59Having done at least a dozen of these, I will reiterate my earlier recommendations based on my experience.Donnelly20 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 23:44
I am only going to be bolt modding one board, i thought of making a jig but i do not have access to a drill press so i will just have to use a hand drill. In the video i recommended the guy uses a pointy file to make pilot holes and it looked like it worked so i am going to give it a shot.
If you have a Dremel or rotary tool, it is far easier to use that, 2-handed, with your face in close (safety glasses, please) on the slowest setting. Leave the shafts as long as possible for better alignment. And seriously, the tiny spherical burr tip is by far the most manageable way to make starter divots.