3rd Party IBM Model M/Model F Springs?
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
I guess I should first say that this should have occurred to me three years ago when I heard about mechanical keyboards for the first time. However, I couldn't find a thread here.
There are a bunch of spring manufacturers that will sell you springs for cheap, like 200 for $10 or less. Does anyone know of a source to get these for a Model M or F or have all the specs for these springs? I'd love to get all new springs for the Model F I'm slowly restoring and/or for the Model M that I might do a bolt mod on.
There are a bunch of spring manufacturers that will sell you springs for cheap, like 200 for $10 or less. Does anyone know of a source to get these for a Model M or F or have all the specs for these springs? I'd love to get all new springs for the Model F I'm slowly restoring and/or for the Model M that I might do a bolt mod on.
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/flipperspring/
I'm sure you could talk with Ellipse about buying a bunch of springs.
I'm sure you could talk with Ellipse about buying a bunch of springs.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Well, I'll post back if he'll send 200 for $10
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Model F77
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3S
- Favorite switch: Alpaca V2
Unicomp sells flippers with springs.hellothere wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 02:07I guess I should first say that this should have occurred to me three years ago when I heard about mechanical keyboards for the first time. However, I couldn't find a thread here.
There are a bunch of spring manufacturers that will sell you springs for cheap, like 200 for $10 or less. Does anyone know of a source to get these for a Model M or F or have all the specs for these springs? I'd love to get all new springs for the Model F I'm slowly restoring and/or for the Model M that I might do a bolt mod on.
https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/PVPLASM
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
I heard back from Ellipse. The price on the website is his price and no discount on quantity. He doesn't sell springs only.
I know that Unicomp sells the pivot plate (hey, thanks for reminding me of the real name) for the Model M with springs. They're 20 cents a piece. Clickykeyboards.com is cheaper at 10 cents a piece, but those were pulled from dead Model Ms. Additionally, those are for Model Ms. Model F springs are just a bit longer. I haven't yet checked to see if actuation force, feel, etc. is different.
I know that Unicomp sells the pivot plate (hey, thanks for reminding me of the real name) for the Model M with springs. They're 20 cents a piece. Clickykeyboards.com is cheaper at 10 cents a piece, but those were pulled from dead Model Ms. Additionally, those are for Model Ms. Model F springs are just a bit longer. I haven't yet checked to see if actuation force, feel, etc. is different.
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
I'd second this. I think the springs were the same in both models, especially on early Ms. In my assessment, the difference in actuation force is caused by the size of the flipper i.e. a lighter load on the end of the lever.
Edit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-101-IBM ... SwnXde3qDp
This is a great deal if you're looking for IBM authentic springs. They're all shiny and new and you get 101 of them for $20 or less.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
OK. I'll give that a shot, next time that ad comes up. Thank you all for your input.
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
No prob.
I found another one too. Not as good of a deal, but they look just as nice and appear to have no oxidation on the metal
https://www.ebay.com/itm/78-ct-Flippers ... SwxuRdPgMc
I found another one too. Not as good of a deal, but they look just as nice and appear to have no oxidation on the metal
https://www.ebay.com/itm/78-ct-Flippers ... SwxuRdPgMc
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
I'll pass on that one, too. I just got another keyboard in and my keeb budget for the next month or so is now killed
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
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- Location: Italy
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more "spires" (if that's the correct word) mean that the spring is more flexible (because for the same deformation each spire needs to deform less, if their number is higher)
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
Welp.
To be fair I have a sample size of one. I swear when I took apart my model m the springs looked the same to me.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Really, I wasn't going to say anything, but I do have two or three new Model M springs from Unicomp. The Model F springs look like fohat's pic: Model F slightly longer and "more coiled." Unicomp's pivot plates are white, tho.
I bought a couple Model F springs w/flippers from orihalcon on ebay, so we can increase that sample size. Mind you, the Model F I have is the first one I've had, so I also can't compare the feel. I had a new Unicomp Ultra Classic, I currently have an absolute mint early Lexmark M, and I've owned a couple IBM-made M 122s. The F did feel a little better than my Ms even before I did any repair to it. I still have to get a foam mat and punch, and do some rust removal sanding, so it'll be a while before my F is up and running.
Oh. All parts purchased before I ran out of keeb cash .
I bought a couple Model F springs w/flippers from orihalcon on ebay, so we can increase that sample size. Mind you, the Model F I have is the first one I've had, so I also can't compare the feel. I had a new Unicomp Ultra Classic, I currently have an absolute mint early Lexmark M, and I've owned a couple IBM-made M 122s. The F did feel a little better than my Ms even before I did any repair to it. I still have to get a foam mat and punch, and do some rust removal sanding, so it'll be a while before my F is up and running.
Oh. All parts purchased before I ran out of keeb cash .