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Best cables from din/ps/2 ->USB

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 12:58
by maxrunner
Anyone know the best solution in case your pc doesn't have ps/2 plug?

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 13:28
by Halvar
What you need is a converter (with some electronics in it), because PS/2 and USB are totally different formats. These converters are cheap though. Look for an "active ps/2 -> usb converter".

Beware of some of the cheapest ones though, as they don't support the extra key on ISO keyboards (the one to the right of the left shift key) or the multimedia keys (if you have them) or have software stability issues.

I had problems with the ISO extra key on this one, so I can't recommend it:
http://www.tmart.com/Keyboard-Mouse-to- ... 84881.html

and I'm now using this one without any problems at all. I've used it with many keyboards including Model M, Model M2, different Cherry G80 and G81s, SGI Granite:
http://www.digitus.info/produkte/zubeho ... -da-70118/
The chip is in the usb connector.

Many people including clickykeyboards.com also recommend this one for Model Ms:
http://www.clickykeyboard.com/_ebay/mod ... sb-007.jpg
but I don't like the form factor.

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 15:29
by maxrunner
Hey thanks, yes i use iso keyboards, going to check this out.

regards,

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 15:36
by maxrunner
Yeah i would prefer a more direct cable type form factor.
Anyway, i already have one but this one has also the mouse connector. i wanted something more simple although it does work well with the iso key.

Posted: 09 Apr 2013, 23:52
by milankooo1978
you might like this one: http://www.alza.sk/axago-usb2-0-2x-ps-2 ... 246594.htm
I've tried lots of boards and all worked perfectly

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 09:10
by dorkvader
Can you post the vendor/device ID for that one, milankooo1978?

I've tried a few. My main issue with the blue cube is the horrible form factor. The best is a soarerverter, which I've made a few. They're expensive 'cause teensys aren't cheap, though.

So far the issue I mostly have with the few I've tried is that they'll "reset" every once in a while. Not too bad if you're just typing, but can be awful for gaming. I've used one of the cheap ones for several years, and it "resets" about once a day.

I've been using the ID Innovations one, and it's been great. I love the form factor, it seems to work well (and reliably) and it wasn't too expensive (only $10 in the GB)
http://www.idinnovations.com/usb%20adaptors.html

If you have a lot of money to shell out, and don't like DIY, the PI-engineering one is supposed to be great. They do the X-keys, and I believe it's recommended by kinesis.

As far as the KB&mouse to USB ones, the "good belkin" or PI engineering y-mouse (I think?) are probably your bestbets.

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 11:25
by milankooo1978
dorkvader wrote:Can you post the vendor/device ID for that one, milankooo1978?

I've tried a few. My main issue with the blue cube is the horrible form factor. The best is a soarerverter, which I've made a few. They're expensive 'cause teensys aren't cheap, though.

So far the issue I mostly have with the few I've tried is that they'll "reset" every once in a while. Not too bad if you're just typing, but can be awful for gaming. I've used one of the cheap ones for several years, and it "resets" about once a day.

I've been using the ID Innovations one, and it's been great. I love the form factor, it seems to work well (and reliably) and it wasn't too expensive (only $10 in the GB)
http://www.idinnovations.com/usb%20adaptors.html

If you have a lot of money to shell out, and don't like DIY, the PI-engineering one is supposed to be great. They do the X-keys, and I believe it's recommended by kinesis.

As far as the KB&mouse to USB ones, the "good belkin" or PI engineering y-mouse (I think?) are probably your bestbets.
It is: AXAGO ADPS-50 USB - 2x PS/2 adapter
web: http://www.axago.cz/cz/produkty/usb-ada ... PS-50.html
I'm not sure if these products are distributed worldwide,but at least in central Europe they are.
hope this helps.
Milan

Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 21:27
by urbancamo
Is there anyone who produces an off-the-shelf programmable PS/2 to USB converter? It would seem to me to be a useful device to convert any PS/2 keyboard into a programmable keyboard?

Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 21:46
by Halvar
You know what they're saying ... "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware." (Alan Kay) ;)

Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 22:52
by JBert
urbancamo wrote:Is there anyone who produces an off-the-shelf programmable PS/2 to USB converter? It would seem to me to be a useful device to convert any PS/2 keyboard into a programmable keyboard?
Did you poke around the Workshop part of this forum? If so, you might have noticed the XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO sticky where Soarer shows off his freeware PS/2 to USB firmware for AVR-USB chips (like a Teensy dev board). It can do macros, remapping, all that and more. I've got one in every keyboard I own (well, until I ran out of dev boards), including brand new Cherry keyboards which still support PS/2 mode if you connect them right.

Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 15:11
by IvanIvanovich
I also have id innovations adapter. It works perfectly on all my old Cherry keyboards.

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:07
by maxrunner
Seems the one i currently own and used with an mx5000 at work, doesn't work very well with the two orteks mck-84 that use the DIN connector. I had a Din to ps/2 on those, but sometimes it stops to respond and then comes back again. I need to try others it seems.

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:28
by maxrunner
dorkvader wrote:Can you post the vendor/device ID for that one, milankooo1978?

I've tried a few. My main issue with the blue cube is the horrible form factor. The best is a soarerverter, which I've made a few. They're expensive 'cause teensys aren't cheap, though.

So far the issue I mostly have with the few I've tried is that they'll "reset" every once in a while. Not too bad if you're just typing, but can be awful for gaming. I've used one of the cheap ones for several years, and it "resets" about once a day.

I've been using the ID Innovations one, and it's been great. I love the form factor, it seems to work well (and reliably) and it wasn't too expensive (only $10 in the GB)
http://www.idinnovations.com/usb%20adaptors.html

If you have a lot of money to shell out, and don't like DIY, the PI-engineering one is supposed to be great. They do the X-keys, and I believe it's recommended by kinesis.

As far as the KB&mouse to USB ones, the "good belkin" or PI engineering y-mouse (I think?) are probably your bestbets.

So this is what mine is doing on the orteks...and thy reseted on more then one ocasion in an hour of use with fast online games.

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:34
by maxrunner
IvanIvanovich wrote:I also have id innovations adapter. It works perfectly on all my old Cherry keyboards.

Does it reset too much?

Also, where can i buy it easily? on the manufacturer there's no price or form to buy it.

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 17:37
by IvanIvanovich
I haven't noticed any resetting. I'm not sure where they are sold as I also got them in the groupbuy. I have an extra one I would consider selling.

Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 01:40
by Compgeke
Just curious, is the resetting due to too little power going into the adapter? I have a Dual USB port to a single USB port adapter, with the sole purpose of providing more power to a USB device (one computer end is straight through, the other just for power) and I wonder if using a cable like that would fix the problem.

Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 02:04
by maxrunner
IvanIvanovich wrote:I haven't noticed any resetting. I'm not sure where they are sold as I also got them in the groupbuy. I have an extra one I would consider selling.
Really? That would be nice, the guys at innovation are asking for 30$ including shipment. It's a bit too costly for me. If you're interested in selling i'm interested.

Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 08:14
by t!ng
I am using this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Ps-Keyboard-Mouse ... roduct_img

and it is working flawlessly with my Unicomp and all Cherry Boards.

Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 11:39
by maxrunner
Does it reset randomly?

Posted: 29 May 2013, 22:56
by maxrunner
So the one i currently have keeps turning off randomly and it gets quite annoying. So i need to get a new one....

Posted: 02 Jun 2013, 23:01
by biochem
maxrunner wrote:Seems the one i currently own and used with an mx5000 at work, doesn't work very well with the two orteks mck-84 that use the DIN connector. I had a Din to ps/2 on those, but sometimes it stops to respond and then comes back again. I need to try others it seems.
I use the id innovations adapter with an MX5000 and have no problems.