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Re: [UK] Kaihua BOX switch test, borrow or buy

Posted: 18 May 2021, 11:14
by Muirium
So I had a play with the testers myself, meeting up with Anachronism. We'd been poking Topres and fancy IBMs for a while first—I brought "a few" keyboards* in the car—so these little fellas had a harsh comparison. At least one of the Box switches felt sufficiently characterful to stand out to me—not Jade as I was expecting, or Navy, but Yellow I think?—and I also apparently found Holy Pandas (but lubed?) to be notable. Anachronism didn't spoil it for me, I wanted to try all these blind, and yet I came to the same conclusion: Zealios aren't for either of us. They're… this is fighting talk I know… too much like jaggy MX clears to me. :o

My favourite tester switch remains the Topre tester Mr. Interface made way back in his Switch Sample Box days. That single switch is what really got me interested in the Topre lore, which sounded like bollocks to me until I touched one. So you can definitely learn something from switch testers. In my case: don't get any ideas about MX custom builds again, okay!

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Spoiler:
  • HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth mod
  • Realforce 55g
  • Novatouch with Cherry dyesubs
  • Model F XT
  • Kishsaver
  • NeXT
  • AEK I
  • AEK II (and another one NIB)
  • Space Invader
  • Alps 64 in thick alu case and blue Alps
  • 3276 Beamspring
You know, a µTester. Nothing too fancy.

Re: [UK] Kaihua BOX switch test, borrow or buy

Posted: 18 May 2021, 18:51
by Go-Kart
Muirium wrote:
18 May 2021, 11:14
So I had a play with the testers myself, meeting up with Anachronism. We'd been poking Topres and fancy IBMs for a while first—I brought "a few" keyboards* in the car—so these little fellas had a harsh comparison. At least one of the Box switches felt sufficiently characterful to stand out to me—not Jade as I was expecting, or Navy, but Yellow I think?—and I also apparently found Holy Pandas (but lubed?) to be notable. Anachronism didn't spoil it for me, I wanted to try all these blind, and yet I came to the same conclusion: Zealios aren't for either of us. They're… this is fighting talk I know… too much like jaggy MX clears to me. :o
Liking Clears probably would be a good start so it doesn't surprise me. Though, putting all those switches up against such competition, definitely not a fair fight :lol: Though yes, those lubed fake HPs are decent. I've been resisting soldering them into a chassis for a while until I'm sure which chassis (I have quite a few boards in pieces)...
Muirium wrote:
18 May 2021, 11:14
[...] don't get any ideas about MX custom builds again, okay!
I still enjoy certain MX style switches enough to go there but I can't even remember when I last used a board with MX styles switches in...
Muirium wrote:
18 May 2021, 11:14
[...] meeting up with Anachronism. We'd been poking Topres and fancy IBMs for a while first—I brought "a few" keyboards* in the car—so these little fellas had a harsh comparison.
*
Spoiler:
  • HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth mod
  • Realforce 55g
  • Novatouch with Cherry dyesubs
  • Model F XT
  • Kishsaver
  • NeXT
  • AEK I
  • AEK II (and another one NIB)
  • Space Invader
  • Alps 64 in thick alu case and blue Alps
  • 3276 Beamspring
You know, a µTester. Nothing too fancy.
Mr. Anachronism is a lucky man!

Re: [UK] Kaihua BOX switch test, borrow or buy

Posted: 19 May 2021, 11:01
by an_achronism
Go-Kart wrote:
18 May 2021, 18:51
Mr. Anachronism is a lucky man!
Also: poor :roll:

Re: [UK] Kaihua BOX switch test, borrow or buy

Posted: 19 May 2021, 15:44
by Muirium
I do what I can to help! An XT and AEK in this case. :lol:

Re: [UK] Kaihua BOX switch test, borrow or buy

Posted: 13 Jun 2021, 04:11
by an_achronism
Right, finally revisiting this. Just ordered a 3x3 switch tester with the following on it:

3 BOX Navy
3 BOX Pink
3 BOX Noble Yellow

Plan is to swap springs around as follows:

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BOX N, stock   |  BOX N w. NY spring  |  BOX N w. P spring
BOX P, stock   |  BOX P w. NY spring  |  BOX P w. N spring
BOX NY, stock  |  BOX NY w. P spring  |  BOX NY w. N spring
The idea here is that the Navy has a very heavy spring and thick click bar, which I find excessive for an entire board, the Pink has a medium spring and medium click bar but with a wide angle on the bar such that the upstroke click is reduced and less consistent, and the Noble Yellow has the same thickness of click bar from the Pink but (I think) with the more typical angle of the bar from the Navy/Jade/White etc., using the light spring also seen in the White. In theory, a Noble Yellow with a Pink spring should basically be the same as a Pink but with the down- and upstroke clicks being about the same instead of the upstroke being lessened, and a Navy with a Pink spring should just be a slightly lighter Navy, both of which sound interesting to me. I don't expect a Navy with a very light spring to work at all really, and the heavy Navy spring in the two other switches will mechanically work but the tactility will be reduced and the actuation force excessively high for no good reason, but I may as well do all combinations for the hell of it. Depending on the results of this, I'll figure out if I'm just ordering a full set and using them as stock, or ordering two and swapping springs about.