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Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 11:20
by 4sStylZ
With some interface you want to select by clicking an object, drag it, and zoom / de-zoom for reaching another location fastly.
This is a not so common use-case, but when you can’t do it it’s very frustating.

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 16:36
by matt3o
okay got a kens expert mostly to look inside and see what I can do with it.

there are mainly 2 mods I could do:

1) replace the ring that activates the optical switch effectively making the scrolling 2x or ever 3x faster. that also means it's easier to activate the scrolling by mistake
2) disable the scroll wheel and add 2 switches that are activated by rotating the wheel by about 5-10degrees on both sides. this way you can use your thumb to rotate the wheel clockwise and use the ball for scrolling. rotating CCW would activate another action (whatever that is)

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 13:23
by zuglufttier
Regarding the Kensinton Expert: Just removing the magnet inside the housing will make the scroll wheel feel way better!

You can pop it back in later if you don't like the feel.

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 16:46
by matt3o
zuglufttier wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 13:23
Regarding the Kensinton Expert: Just removing the magnet inside the housing will make the scroll wheel feel way better!

You can pop it back in later if you don't like the feel.
mmh can't see any magnet...

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 20:16
by Archie
Magnet was really bad idea (and its removal a common thing) - so apparently Kensington has stopped installing it in latest Expert batches. I've bought mine several years ago, and it was already without magnet.

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 20:46
by zuglufttier
Oh, I see, that's a possibilty!

@matt3o: There used to be a magnet inside the housing which created more friction for the scroll wheel. If your scrolling experience is pretty much fluid, then your unit propably does not have one.

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 20:52
by matt3o
I'm sure I have no magnets but still the scroll wheel is shite :D

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 21:00
by Archie
Yes indeed, Expert implementation was a biggest fault. Funny enough, cheap entry-level Orbit have butter-smooth scrollring...

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 29 Aug 2019, 16:21
by zuglufttier
Yep, I hated that scroll wheel, too. I never really found any trackball useful for me, either my thumb or my wrist hurts after a few minutes of use.

But I don't have any problems using normal mice, so I can live with that. But I'm always eager to find new input methods ;)

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 11:45
by daedalus
Been using a CST Lasertrac as my daily driver for close to a decade - cannot recommend it strongly enough to trackball fans.

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 21:30
by Daniel
Owning both a CST trackball and a Kensington Slimblade I'm only using the Slimblade since several years now. The distinct feature what I like about the Slimblade compare to the CST is that its flatter and that it has four buttons which are separated from the movement and/or scrolling mechanism. The fourth button has the "Back" function assigned by default under Linux. I really missed the button when using the CST while surfing the internet. The third button has the middle click assigned by default which is great for pasting selected text from the clipboard.

Re: has the trackball landscape changed in any way lately?

Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 20:24
by dionb
Problem with the Slimblade is scrolling with the whole wheel. Makes it almost impossible to move and scroll at same time. I'm biased as I have a pile of hoarded MS Trackball Explorers, but despite trying pretty much every other trackball out there, only the Elecom Huge comes close, with probably Kensington Orbit as third. Absolutely hate my CST... must be a matter of preference and habituation.