Zenith Z-150 keyboard review by THOMAS
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I still have that Zenith Z-150 chassis. I wonder if I can put Matias Linears (or tactiles) in and have them feel good.
Thomas said that 'The linears REALLY have to be your thing.', so that means they are good, right?
Thomas said that 'The linears REALLY have to be your thing.', so that means they are good, right?
- Blaise170
- ALPS キーボード
- Location: Boston, MA
- Main keyboard: Cooler Master Quickfire Stealth
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Matias Linear are better than having a rubber dome board, but you have to seriously mod them in order to have them actually feel more like an SKCL switch. I've found that removing the dampers from the switch greatly improve the linearity of the switches. Otherwise there's an odd mushiness to them that just feels weird.
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What about quiet click?
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Matias Quiet Linears I found use dampeners that are considerably BIGGER than the ones used on Quiet Clicks. This results in a noticeably shorter keytravel and very strange, mushy bottoming-out feel that I personally don't like at all. If you remove the dampeners they become a lot better, more like SKCL, but they're too light IMO. I prefer SKCL Green in every aspect. Matiases are more durable and have the luxury of being able available off the shelf, though, of course.
Remember that the MQL switches were developed in response to a VERY specific set of demands set by a group of stenographers. They were not at all intended as a mass market solution.
Remember that the MQL switches were developed in response to a VERY specific set of demands set by a group of stenographers. They were not at all intended as a mass market solution.
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That sucks. Are there really no good switches out there to put in my zenith?
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But I had to sell them to make money for my M.
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But I didn't want to get rid of such a good chassis man!Myoth wrote: ↑you could have sold the whole board for much more and not be troubled with having to choose switches that will cost you money
So what are some good switches (that AREN'T expensive) that I could put in it?
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
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>good alps
>not expensive
choose one
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God damn it!
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
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I mean you can get lucky of course... I finally managed to snag the last alps switch type I actually wanted to own a few days ago (SKCL brown) for about half what the crazy ebay rate is. deals are out there, you just have to know how to find them.
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I haven't had luck at the flea market recently. Doubt I will.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
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Not just locally... look in places people don't normally look online, and always be quick about it. good deals dont stay up for long.green-squid wrote: ↑I haven't had luck at the flea market recently. Doubt I will.
- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
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It would be nice if you make a thread to show your Alps full house when you have time.mike52787 wrote: ↑I mean you can get lucky of course... I finally managed to snag the last alps switch type I actually wanted to own a few days ago (SKCL brown) for about half what the crazy ebay rate is. deals are out there, you just have to know how to find them.
It's not a bottomless pit but having an unpredictable period of time to wait and then an ever rising price of these vintage Alps boards, I decided to stop looking further after getting some greens, oranges, blues, and (common) browns, etc. Types I really want to try are neon-greens, ambers, and stripe-ambers; these are gems that I look forward to see in keyboard meetups. The cases that I didn't feel too bad not keeping was only the very common AEK II. Otherwise, the Silicon graphics case (identical to the old bigfoot) and the Z-150 cases are my tops. Again, it's a compromise, because if I persist (on this journey of piling up used and new keyboards and keyboard kits), IBM multi-station 5556 and Northgate Omnikey ULTRA are high up on the list, and also the Wang 724 (725-3770). But my first loves - Silicon Graphics bigfoot and Sun Type-5c (I know it's a rubber dome, I mean the official ones) are with me, I am feeling contended.
I can only imagine the situation for quite a few of the collectors here and there have 60+ or even 100+ and who are mainly collecting and not for resale.
P.s. And I confess, I slightly prefer well-tuned MX linears over the NOS condition Alps SKCL greens I tried, partly because I have much more keycap choice on the MX. I have been planning to dyeing / painting my Z-150 chassis a bit greyish olive green to have a bit of an industrial look to match the yellowed beige caps; I hope Matias will eventually give Alps more keycap choice in 2018.
- Myoth
- Location: Strasbourg
- Main keyboard: IDB60
- Main mouse: EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Cap BS
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photos-f62/mike52787-s-collection-album-v2-t18493.htmlMenuhin wrote: ↑ It would be nice if you make a thread to show your Alps full house when you have time.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
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sorry to burst your bubble but ive sold 99% of my alps boardsMenuhin wrote: ↑It would be nice if you make a thread to show your Alps full house when you have time.mike52787 wrote: ↑I mean you can get lucky of course... I finally managed to snag the last alps switch type I actually wanted to own a few days ago (SKCL brown) for about half what the crazy ebay rate is. deals are out there, you just have to know how to find them.
It's not a bottomless pit but having an unpredictable period of time to wait and then an ever rising price of these vintage Alps boards, I decided to stop looking further after getting some greens, oranges, blues, and (common) browns, etc. Types I really want to try are neon-greens, ambers, and stripe-ambers; these are gems that I look forward to see in keyboard meetups. The cases that I didn't feel too bad not keeping was only the very common AEK II. Otherwise, the Silicon graphics case (identical to the old bigfoot) and the Z-150 cases are my tops. Again, it's a compromise, because if I persist (on this journey of piling up used and new keyboards and keyboard kits), IBM multi-station 5556 and Northgate Omnikey ULTRA are high up on the list, and also the Wang 724 (725-3770). But my first loves - Silicon Graphics bigfoot and Sun Type-5c (I know it's a rubber dome, I mean the official ones) are with me, I am feeling contended.
I can only imagine the situation for quite a few of the collectors here and there have 60+ or even 100+ and who are mainly collecting and not for resale.
P.s. And I confess, I slightly prefer well-tuned MX linears over the NOS condition Alps SKCL greens I tried, partly because I have much more keycap choice on the MX. I have been planning to dyeing / painting my Z-150 chassis a bit greyish olive green to have a bit of an industrial look to match the yellowed beige caps; I hope Matias will eventually give Alps more keycap choice in 2018.
just keeping the ones I truly love, and have big plans for another one
- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
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Like looking into the 'www' and 'mmm' sections on Craigslist but asking for keyboards instead?
Looking for some inspiration to let me think outside the box.
- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
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Ah, I see.Myoth wrote: ↑photos-f62/mike52787-s-collection-album-v2-t18493.htmlMenuhin wrote: ↑ It would be nice if you make a thread to show your Alps full house when you have time.
I could not recognize that because Alps does not have a big presence there.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0166
see my reply aboveMenuhin wrote: ↑Ah, I see.Myoth wrote: ↑photos-f62/mike52787-s-collection-album-v2-t18493.htmlMenuhin wrote: ↑ It would be nice if you make a thread to show your Alps full house when you have time.
I could not recognize that because Alps does not have a big presence there.
- ScottPaladin
- Location: Texas, United States
- Main keyboard: Can't pick a favorite
- Favorite switch: Fujistu Leaf Spring
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God damn, that badge is sexy. This board is making it onto my must acquire list.