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Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2017, 08:24
by Wodan
That green was already available in a GMK full mod kit with the TA Royal drop on Massdrop not too long ago.

I can try and get a pic of it with classic beige ... but i think it looks better the the white alphas of TA Royal.

Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2017, 09:01
by lordzebu
Quick mockup
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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2017, 12:27
by lordzebu
GMK is possibly going to add some more colours to their standard palette next year but custom colours used in previous GBs will not be added.
ideus wrote:Plan: Wait for Yuri GMK and Mute group buys to be fulfilled and run this GB with full icon modifiers in muted colors.

The icon mods certainly look nice but adding them to get the required number of keys (104) is slightly over the top in my view. We would be better off to run a complete set at this point.

I still think that CR on TU1 or DY wouldn't be such a bad choice.

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2017, 16:45
by ideus
I can see your point on the iconifying case, I hope someone be able to do some of them in basic Beige, it would be a shame not to make them available in such standard color, being them so innovative. Imagine Classic Beige Sets, in different Languages, all Iconified.

Regarding the colors I think they are too dark for my taste; but, it is a such personal matter that they may have their share of demand, who knows.

Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2017, 22:16
by lordzebu
Well if the overall feeeling is that they are too dark we could go with cyan (TU2) or the light green (AE) although cyan mods are abundantly available. Personally I really like the light green =).

Unread postPosted: 17 Mar 2017, 08:02
by Khers
I'd be all over a mod set in CR on 3B. I might be the only one to think so, but, that would look ace!

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 13:35
by lordzebu
Added poll and new mockups to the first post to evaluate if it makes sense to move this venture forward.

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 13:53
by Prelim
I would vote for "DY (purple) + TU2 (cyan) accents" if would be custom light colors, the normal ones are just to bright to be used with classic beige sets. So "Neither" was my vote :/

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 15:26
by oknytt
I voted for TU1 + DY accents.
I also like green but IMHO the AE is a bit too bright, if I were to choose I would rather have N7, but I would still buy a set of AE-mods if they were produced.

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2017, 22:39
by lordzebu
I'm going to "close" the vote on sunday night, a couple more votes would be nice to have I think. Any other suggestions regarding missing/superfluous/wrong caps in the draft? My plan is to get a quote from GMK next week.

Unread postPosted: 29 Mar 2017, 09:10
by lordzebu
The voting process ended with the following results on sunday:
TU1 + DY: 6
DY + TU2: 0
AE: 1
Neither: 3

I'm currently waiting for a quote on the first set. Once that's in we will see if we need to streamline it a bit.
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The prices are in

The set as pictured in the mockup in the first post:
MOQ 150: 70,07 €
MOQ 250: 63,05 €

If we ditch all three accent coloured spacebars the price points are:
MOQ 150: 61,97 €
MOQ 250: 55,65 €

The keys will ship in trays only, no more zip-lock bags. When we have finalized the set I'll get the measurements of the trays and can give you a shipping quote.

Unread postPosted: 02 Apr 2017, 10:18
by lordzebu
Is anyone keen on replacing the diamond keys with "super" or "code"? This came up in the geekhack thread.

Unread postPosted: 02 Apr 2017, 10:22
by Wodan
I'm always for diamond keys :)

Unread postPosted: 02 Apr 2017, 11:15
by Prelim
I'm out, but good luck with the GB ;)

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2017, 22:52
by oknytt
I want my sparkly diamonds ;)

Also this, from Geekhack:
lordzebu wrote:
pikku-allu wrote:Why not have the stepped Caps Lock use the lock icon as well?

Good questions. This should be changed for consistency; I'm leaning towards the arrow version though.

Am I reading you right if I think you would want to have the down arrow version on the normal non-stepped Caps Lock?
If so, I'm all for it!

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2017, 00:06
by ideus
I suggest you to prepare 3d renders in the proper pantone colors to pull as much interest as possible.

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2017, 09:01
by lordzebu
oknytt wrote:I want my sparkly diamonds ;)

Am I reading you right if I think you would want to have the down arrow version on the normal non-stepped Caps Lock?
If so, I'm all for it!

Yes the non-stepped Caps Lock will be changed to the down arrow version. We'll also keep the diamonds =).

Regarding renders: I'm waiting on the product render from GMK. Also I may have a look into custom renders.

Unread postPosted: 18 Apr 2017, 10:46
by PlastikSchnittstelle
I like it!
Would buy one or maybe two sets.
Hope it will happen.

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 15:47
by lordzebu
GMK sent the rendering

Updated the mockup in the first post
Included GMK rendering in first post
Waiting on the dimension of the trays to calculate shipping costs to finish the GB timetable

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Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 15:50
by Wodan
Damn this looks PRETTY neat!

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 16:05
by Khers
I want to not want this, but who am I kidding...

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 19:14
by Menuhin
I want it!

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 21:35
by duynguyenle
I'm liking the look of this set based on the new renders. Purple spacebars are very nice too!

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 15:15
by PlastikSchnittstelle
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POK3R-ISO

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POK3R-ANSI

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GH60

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Whitefox-Vanilla

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Whitefox-True

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RAMA65


this kind of color-mod addon for old classic beige sets is exactly what i was hoping for.
i made some 2d mockups showing some of the possible variations. they represent poker, GH60, whitefox/vanilla, whitefox/true and rama65 (think it's not out there jet).
i hope this helps to get more of you exited.

yes - the colors don't quite look as popping. the rgb values are correct but in real life the lighting conditions can make a huge difference of how we actually perceive a color.

about the truefox-layout: could use one more R1 cap, i think?

also i would suggest one more blank for each R2, R3 and R4.

note that for the L9-colored spacebar you'll probably need wodan's HADapter.

no WIN-logo key? totally fine for me, since the windows logo is something i can happily live without on my keyboard.

please let me know if the layouts have any mistakes. if you have suggestions for more layout examples, let me know.

**EDIT:**
sorry, had to reupload the pictures. the alphas were 100% white, now the have their beige.
RGB values i used:

## Classic Beige
Alpha: L9 / RGB (227, 229, 216)
Modifier: U9 / RGB (185, 186, 180)
Legends: CR / RGB (29, 51, 39)

## Mods
Modifier A: TU2 / RGB (0, 164, 169)
Modifier B: DY / RGB (93, 67, 126)
Legends: CR / RGB (29, 51, 39)

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 17:37
by Sankart
I don't know if it's too late to add this, or if anyone is even interested in this, but it keeps bugging me.
We get all keys we need to essentially use them on two keyboards (or sell one part at some point), one ANSI and one ISO. We got three backspaces, two escapes, two capslocks, four shifts, six controls, six alts and four enter keys. BUT only one tab key. If I were to build a keyboard like your Rama65 mockup, but with backspace on backslash/pipe and stepped capslock, I could use/sell an entire standard ISO set. At least for me this would make drops like these WAY more interesting, as I use wacky layouts and usually could sell quite a huge portion of my sets. It's a huge bummer for me, to have a 70€ in mods at home, while only using ~25€ of it and not being able to do much with the rest, as a single key is missing.

So Tl;dr: How about a second tab-key?

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 19:10
by ideus
The set is looking good.

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 19:56
by lordzebu
PlastikSchnittstelle wrote:## Mods
Modifier A: TU2 / RGB (0, 164, 169)
Modifier B: DY / RGB (93, 67, 126)
Legends: CR / RGB (29, 51, 39)

Mods A should be TU1, so RGB (0, 98, 122) or 00627A

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 20:14
by PlastikSchnittstelle
@lordzebu:
damn! why the hell did i use TU2, really have no idea how that happened :(
will update it tomorrow.

@Sankart:
that's a genius idea!
a second tab would make it so much more useful.
TWO TABS OR NOTHING !!!

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 20:40
by lordzebu
PlastikSchnittstelle wrote:@lordzebu:
damn! why the hell did i use TU2, really have no idea how that happened :(
will update it tomorrow.

Perhaps you are magically drawn to it, like I am.

I'll think about the second tab and one more R1 blank. Anything else before I am going to tell GMK the good news that they can redo the rendering :twisted: ?

Unread postPosted: 01 May 2017, 21:33
by Sankart
Only thing I could think of is a R1 1u Delete. I'd like that instead of the blank on the True Whitefox layout, but maybe that's just me. Certainly no must.
I didn't mention it in the last post but I think I should, really nice work with this so far. Renders look good!